Now that FF16 will feature LGBT+ characters, can we get some rep in FF14 too?

[ValkyrieL]

There is literally zero heterosexual romance in this game so why do we need a spot light on this? Keep romance of any kind out it, most writing is vague, make out of it what you want...

[Hurlstone]

There is literally zero heterosexual romance in this game so why do we need a spot light on this? Keep romance of any kind out it, most writing is vague, make out of it what you want...

*Stares at Urianger and Moenbryda, Y'shtola and Runa, Chai-Nuzz and Dulia-Chai (BEST COUPLE EVER!) Little Sun and his quest to find his Nhaama, Thancred and all the ladies he wooed, the countless number of side quest NPCs who mention their opposite sex attraction/partner, whatever is going on with Hoary Boulder and those sisters, Gegeruju and his dancers, the whole mining/botany part of the Stadium gather quests, Fourchenault and Ameliance, that FATE(?) where we seem to accompany a prostitute to her meeting, Lalai and Zhai'a Nelhah, Curious Gorge and Dorgono (IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME!) Alka Zolka and Setoto ect.*

[Chloe_Saunders]

*sigh* being lgbt myself ... I wish things would stop enforcing it in a untactfull way.. should it be done yes, but make it make sense. Honestly thats not hard in final fantasy I always picture zidan/Kuja as bisexual Cloud seems like he might be trans. I know it may not be cannon but I do enjoy writting fanfiction of the said characters. That being said I do wish they could write the story similar to how Cloud honestly is a good representation for some ptsd and disassoting disorders, not counting he was good with helping me understand my bdp when I was growing up. Perhaps they could write a kid who was harmed, or cursed in the story then slowly starts to realize he is a girl, and have to seek out a beast or great evil that cursed her as a secondary character.

Give them a blajah shark plushy to kill people
(Totally don't own 5)

[SilverObi]

He's talking to himself with his own accounts now... this man needs the number to a hotline but not sure which kind at this point

[Renalt]

Can i have some of that popcorn? Had a real hard day =(

Hell yeah you can! What kind you want me to make?

Sorry you had a rough day and I hope the next is much better.

[Renalt]

Too…late…save…me…



Thank you yes finally! Day 12 symptoms are clearing up, tiredness still here, I don’t wish corona on anyone, I never had such horrible throat pain in my life, barely even ate and even my skin hurt, weirdest feeling ever.

I think I ate an entire gallon of sherbert when I was sick. I couldn't much taste it but it at least made me feel a bit better.

[Renalt]

Spectating is so boring though. It’s about the participation

Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes.

"If you worry about what everyone is trying to do, you become a spectator and not a player."

[Renathras]

LGBT this, LGBT that... how about they focus on just writing a good story. Not score diversity points to appease the Twitter crowd??

This.

Welp... looks like the hate mob is already out. Blocked.

It's not a hate mob, it's a valid point: Focus on good writing and a good story. It shouldn't matter the race/gender/orientation of people as long as they're good characters. One doesn't have to be an ambiguously asexual 12 foot tall 10,000 year old white guy with three eyes to recognize Emet-Selch is a well written character.

The style of his comment is somewhat brusque, but the core point is correct. And blocking someone who disagrees with you is far closer to a "hate mob" than someone voicing his position that the focus should be on good writing.

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Besides which:

Quina was non-binary (or...simultaneously binary?) before it was cool, being s/he. If FF9 was made now, Quina's pronouns would probably be they/them. Japan isn't all on board with the social justice train, but they're fine with it at the same time. They aren't actively promoting it, but they won't back down if in countries where it's not popular or allowed - unlike, say, virtue signaling Disney that plays it up in the West then quietly removes their LGBT stuff in Muslim majority countries, etc. Japan also doesn't tend to focus on it. If it's part of someone's character, it just is. In Outlaw Star, one of the characters was very obviously and explicitly gay. But it wasn't really relevant. It was part of his character, not HIS ENTIRE CHARACTER. That's the RIGHT way to write characters - LGBT or cis as a cowboy action hero that's also straight as a supermassive black hole jet. Casual things done off screen and not making a big deal of it; that's actually the RIGHT way to write characters.

Hell, all the things in Il Mheg go by "they", as do SOME of the Lopporits, while others go by he and she, indicating they actually ARE gendered beings that recognize a non-binary (whereas in Il Mehg, it's possible they just don't have genders in the first place)

You also have (ambiguously) Ryne and Gaia.

We aren't exactly drowning in straight couples. Offhand, there are only four I can think of - Moonbrida's parents, the Chais, the cute couple from the Goldsmith quest, and the Twins mom and dad. That's it, and I had to stop and think a bit for some of those. There might be random "straight" NPCs in the sense of parents to children, but we don't really run into people that are expressly STRAIGHT or that talk about their straightness.

Both Hauchefaunt (especially in the original Japanese) and Zenos were absolutely infatuated with your character (meaning they're gay or at least bi if your character is a male, in addition to Zenos being combatsexual), and Graha somewhat seems to be as well. Alise is into your character as well, so if you're female, she's gay/bi for you. Both she and Graha are as main as main characters can get. Then there are the aforementioned Fey of Il Mehg and the Lopporits.

I'm not sure what more you want. A main character to "come out" to you? A bunch of homosexual couples with children that are also somehow main characters? An NC17 rating with same-sex sex scenes? If it's just two guys that appear to be close hugging, you'll write that off as "only implied", but this is a E for Everyone game, so they aren't going to address sexual themes in general. I'm not sure what more you want. For all we know, Y'Shtola is lesbian. She's definitely quick to shoot down most men (at least, the ones that she doesn't consider friends - she's nicer to them), and has the strong will and not-quite-but-also-kinda butch thing going when she feels like it.

How would you even know she's NOT lesbian? It's not like you can tell by looking.

For all you know, we could already have SEVERAL LGBT main characters in the cast! They just don't wear their sexual/gender identities on their sleeves.

It's not "Western culture" to accept and be kind to people with different identities.

Does...does anyone want to tell him?

Go to non-Western cultures. You'll often find them FAR less accommodating than Western ones... <_<

Even though it's a troll thread, there is already a gay couple in XIV. The quest to Wanderer's Palace (Hard) features the couple.

"gay couple"

"Wonderer's Palace"
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"(Hard)"

XD

Sorry, sorry. I just couldn't help it. Even I have to be juvenile every now and again. XD

That said, I don't remember this one. Going to have to go and watch it...

[QiyoJoyo]

Thanks my Friend. The Lalafell-Devil is in your debt. On your darkest day, i will come an kick shins in your name!

[Renalt]

Thanks my Friend. The Lalafell-Devil is in your debt. On your darkest day, i will come an kick shins in your name!

Perhaps my Lala Alt will.