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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Samurai Lv 90
    TBH Materia being slotted actually doesn't matter much in endgame content and not at all in anything else. So I just slot things by personal preference.

    Tanks: Tenacity and Skill Speed
    Physical DPS: Skills Speed and Red stuff
    Magical DPS: Spell Speed and Red Stuff
    Healer: Spell speed and Crit.

    I don't like tea in my pie... >.>
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao uses some purples for BLMs. Mao tries get spell speed up a bits.
    Just don't eat them. I know it's tempting. Purple is a delicious color.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    I don't like tea in my pie... >.>
    Is cream ok?
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Mao Xifeng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Just don't eat them. I know it's tempting. Purple is a delicious color.
    Awwwww.......but is tasty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Awwwww.......but is tasty!
    Yes, they go great with the water from that blue flaming lake in that mountain. Only issue is ppl expect you to fill the craters that magically appear after burping afterwards.
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I'd like something in between where they still matter but not overwhelmingly so, and without any sort of awful overmelding system.
    I can't speak much to gathering, but when it comes to crafting - melding materia matters, but only so far as the trade-off you wish to make.

    Either pentameld to hit certain stats so you can HQ from NQ ingredients while using food/draughts... or pocket that money and spend more time making HQ leathers, ingots, cloths, etc so you can HQ from HQ materials. In that way, it is fairly balanced. The cost of melding the guaranteed slots and the first overmeld isn't so bad. Across one gearset, that's 17 materia for the guaranteed slots and probably 70 for the first overmeld. If a player were to use those slots wisely, they'll probably get near the max CP possible and some craft/control boosts that can help them 100% HQ the materials needed to then 100% HQ the final products.
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    Echo Micacho
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    TBH Materia being slotted actually doesn't matter much in endgame content and not at all in anything else. So I just slot things by personal preference.

    Tanks: Tenacity and Skill Speed
    Physical DPS: Skills Speed and Red stuff
    Magical DPS: Spell Speed and Red Stuff
    Healer: Spell speed and Crit.

    I don't like tea in my pie... >.>
    Please tell me that is a joke...it does matter...a lot.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I just give them to the doman enclave every week. There's sadly nothing else to do with them. A lot of them literally sell just barely above the price you'd get for selling them to vendors.
    You save them an go to the materia transmuter on the next expansion and sell them for when the next ones are worth more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Please tell me that is a joke...it does matter...a lot.
    Poor opitmization is better than the players I see almost daily that have zero melds.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    L'tanan Tyanu
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 82
    The purple materia at least still see some use and I'd like if more jobs had the option to build sks/sps vs crit, like BLM. That seems to be one of the easiest ways to encourage build diversity even if it's a binary choice between crit and speed.

    As far as I know for piety there's at least different tiers you can meld depending on how much of a cushion you want for MP, although I don't know how many people do that in practice but it's there at least. Tenacity on the other hand is a completely dead stat and I don't know how they'd encourage its use other than making bosses whack tanks so hard that they absolutely need it for its damage reduction, or giving it some other effect.
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by baklava151 View Post
    The purple materia at least still see some use and I'd like if more jobs had the option to build sks/sps vs crit, like BLM. That seems to be one of the easiest ways to encourage build diversity even if it's a binary choice between crit and speed.

    As far as I know for piety there's at least different tiers you can meld depending on how much of a cushion you want for MP, although I don't know how many people do that in practice but it's there at least. Tenacity on the other hand is a completely dead stat and I don't know how they'd encourage its use other than making bosses whack tanks so hard that they absolutely need it for its damage reduction, or giving it some other effect.
    The reason it works so well for BLM but no other class is because BLM is the only class that has 100% of its damage on the GCD.
    BLM doesn't have a single oGCD flat potency hit, all of its oGCDs are GCD enhancing like Ley Lines or Sharpcast.
    But if a good chunk of your dps comes from oGCDs which are unaffected by SpS/SkS then it quickly loses value compared to crit, which aways affects both.

    And piety is nothing but "idiot ensurance".
    It's a completely boring, practically dead stat. You either have enough to ress those idiots that keep doing the carpet RP or you don't and any excess MP at the end of the fight is just wasted secondary stay.
    If anything, piety needs a rework from the ground up because right now it's the worst stat.
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