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    Kaliesto's Avatar
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Current problem with battle materia

    You all probably noticed for years that Red Materia is more valued than anything else (especially CRIT materia)

    Purple & Yellow Materia tend to fall to the wayside because its useless for raiding and other aspects of the game (least according to some people like the Tenacity materia) , I'm starting to wonder why those materia even exist at this point if anyone barely use that materia.

    I would love to see someone change my mind if there is indeed some actual use for Purple & Yellow Materia in any particular setting.
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    Mao Xifeng
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    Mao uses some purples for BLMs. Mao tries get spell speed up a bits.
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao uses some purples for BLMs. Mao tries get spell speed up a bits.
    Just don't eat them. I know it's tempting. Purple is a delicious color.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Just don't eat them. I know it's tempting. Purple is a delicious color.
    Awwwww.......but is tasty!
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Awwwww.......but is tasty!
    Yes, they go great with the water from that blue flaming lake in that mountain. Only issue is ppl expect you to fill the craters that magically appear after burping afterwards.
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    Feline Good
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    I just give them to the doman enclave every week. There's sadly nothing else to do with them. A lot of them literally sell just barely above the price you'd get for selling them to vendors.
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    Aether Hale
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I just give them to the doman enclave every week. There's sadly nothing else to do with them. A lot of them literally sell just barely above the price you'd get for selling them to vendors.
    Outside of endgame its really annoying to me how materia matters...little if at all. If youre above item level materia doesn't matter and when it does its only if youre trying to min/max. I'm not saying make the game harder or require materia but I really wish there was an advantage to utilizing them throughout the game, ya know?
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AetherHale View Post
    Outside of endgame its really annoying to me how materia matters...little if at all. If youre above item level materia doesn't matter and when it does its only if youre trying to min/max. I'm not saying make the game harder or require materia but I really wish there was an advantage to utilizing them throughout the game, ya know?
    I mean it does actually matter for Crafters/Gatherers, and in Savage+ it's usually helpful, especially if you're in a fresh tier with recently released crafted gear and have to penta.

    Which... is something else I really dislike. IF they want to make materia matter that's fine, but if they made it so you had to pentameld everything then I would just outright quit cause pentamelding sucks. I don't care what other MMOs you compare it to either. If it sucks then it sucks.

    I'd like something in between where they still matter but not overwhelmingly so, and without any sort of awful overmelding system.
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Every game system ever created.
    So what you're saying is that the bar is low, and therefore the fact that the issue doesn't need solving and is instead acceptable.
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I'd like something in between where they still matter but not overwhelmingly so, and without any sort of awful overmelding system.
    I can't speak much to gathering, but when it comes to crafting - melding materia matters, but only so far as the trade-off you wish to make.

    Either pentameld to hit certain stats so you can HQ from NQ ingredients while using food/draughts... or pocket that money and spend more time making HQ leathers, ingots, cloths, etc so you can HQ from HQ materials. In that way, it is fairly balanced. The cost of melding the guaranteed slots and the first overmeld isn't so bad. Across one gearset, that's 17 materia for the guaranteed slots and probably 70 for the first overmeld. If a player were to use those slots wisely, they'll probably get near the max CP possible and some craft/control boosts that can help them 100% HQ the materials needed to then 100% HQ the final products.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I just give them to the doman enclave every week. There's sadly nothing else to do with them. A lot of them literally sell just barely above the price you'd get for selling them to vendors.
    You save them an go to the materia transmuter on the next expansion and sell them for when the next ones are worth more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Please tell me that is a joke...it does matter...a lot.
    Poor opitmization is better than the players I see almost daily that have zero melds.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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