Should Moogle Treasure Trove be Permanent?

[Atelier-Bagur]

So Ive been playing WoW Dragonflight recently and one of the new features that I thought was neat is the whole Trading Post thing where they have you complete monthly activities for rewards that cycle every month.

Pretty much a battlepass; which to my knowledge people seem to either love or hate it.

But in this game, we already have that with the Moogle Tomestone event that happens prior to patch releases and I was thinking considering how people seem to lack things to do in this game, would it be a good idea to maybe have this event be a permanent thing?

I feel it be a nice way for at least recycling old content more frequently and maybe even allow certain mogstation items be available for purchase (obviously a pipe dream), or have some dungeon gear be acquired this way and this all gets cycled every month (one thing the WoW Trading post does is allow you to save specific items for purchasing later even if the month rolls by with new stuff)

Plus it'll also help keep Blue Mage relevant too and maybe finally allow to skew roulette queues to different content besides the usual raids that we see.

Still I dont know if this is a good idea or not. I already can tell people will complain about it, but what do you folks think?

[DiaDeem]

I mean.. there's a lot of things to do, but not every activity is gonna be enjoyed by everyone.

The "issue" with having the Treasure Trove being permanent would be one of two things:
1.- People would no-life it in 2 days and then complain there's nothing else to do
2.- If it actually took time, people will then complain that it's too grindy

So I get what you're saying and in principle, I kinda like it actually and I think it wouldn't hurt just to have around, but it wouldn't solve the issue of the average forum complaint on whatever's the flavor of the month at the time.

Or maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I mean.. there's a lot of things to do, but not every activity is gonna be enjoyed by everyone.

The "issue" with having the Treasure Trove being permanent would be one of two things:
1.- People would no-life it in 2 days and then complain there's nothing else to do
2.- If it actually took time, people will then complain that it's too grindy

So I get what you're saying and in principle, I kinda like it actually and I think it wouldn't hurt just to have around, but it wouldn't solve the issue of the average forum complaint on whatever's the flavor of the month at the time.

Or maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.

Very true, because really, iterally nothing, absolutely NOTHING this MMO or any other MMO does will satisfy the no-lifers as they'll always consume the content faster than they can churn it out. Its happens to every single MMO.

Buuuut like I said, I think the positives outweigh the negatives for this imo. If they circulate the required activities to engage for the tomestones wisely, I feel it'll be more than enough incentive for people to have an excuse to try other avenues. Like imagine if you get moogle tomestones for participating a certain number of Eureka NMs or Bozja Skirmishes, or allow specific pre-Shb zones FATES to give you moogle tomestones. There's numerous ways they can use this to make older content relevant if they play it smart.

[DiaDeem]

Buuuut like I said, I think the positives outweigh the negatives for this imo. If they circulate the required activities to engage for the tomestones wisely, I feel it'll be more than enough incentive for people to have an excuse to try other avenues. Like imagine if you get moogle tomestones for participating a certain number of Eureka NMs or Bozja Skirmishes, or allow specific pre-Shb zones FATES to give you moogle tomestones. There's numerous ways they can use this to make older content relevant if they play it smart.

Yeah, like I said: I like the idea. These could help revitalize queues like Ivalice and YoRHa. They're also just great for the Ostensibly Special Timeworn Maps. Guaranteed portals and you can stack them. Love those!

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

The "issue" with having the Treasure Trove being permanent would be one of two things:
1.- People would no-life it in 2 days and then complain there's nothing else to do
2.- If it actually took time, people will then complain that it's too grindy

So I get what you're saying and in principle, I kinda like it actually and I think it wouldn't hurt just to have around, but it wouldn't solve the issue of the average forum complaint on whatever's the flavor of the month at the time.

If they keep it updated in a...IDK, bi-Weekly to Monthly Bases, I think it would be kinda neat.
Make it a Weekly or a Monthly thing, and then 'maybe' reset the moogle tomes for a new batch of rewards.
Or maybe the leftovers could be saved and capped at a certain threshold and monthly there could be a BIG reward, like those earrings, or a Mount. But the cap is still under a certain amount so you still have to grind out a few dozen more tomes before you can get it.

Im just spit balling here.

[Fyrebrand]

YES! Well, either make it permanent or just have these events more often.

doesnt matter when blue mage is allowed

Honestly, I don't know why they allow Blue Mage in these things. BLU should be ineligible for rewards, honestly. In fact, arguably you should not be able to queue with a full pre-made party so that you're at least contributing to the health of Duty Finder and helping other players.

People would no-life it in 2 days and then complain there's nothing else to do

How about this: in exchange for making it a permanent feature, establish a hard limit on how many moogle tomes you can get per day. I think if it goes this route, then you can also let people bank their moogle tomes for the next period's rewards if they have what they want already.

Another idea: have a miniature one-day "Wondrous Tails" type thing, where each day you get a random selection of a few duties. Maybe one regular dungeon, one raid or trial, one alliance raid, a PvP match. You do one of those, and you get moogle tomes depending on which one you did.

[DiaDeem]

How about this: in exchange for making it a permanent feature, establish a hard limit on how many moogle tomes you can get per day. I think if it goes this route, then you can also let people bank their moogle tomes for the next period's rewards if they have what they want already.

That could also work! That, and the Monthly rotation sound really nice to me.
People then would complain about daily limits and FOMO...

I still think having a bunch of things you can get that revitalize some duties would only do good things. Heck, they should put DR in there with like 10 tomestones per run or something. We'd be back to ShB levels of activity for that raid.

[UkcsAlias]

People then would complain about daily limits and FOMO...

Most of the rewards are already obtainable without such event anyway. Its generaly just the 100 tomes cosmetic that is event tied. And if that reward is obtainable for a long time, its very unlikely people will miss out on that.

Sure, the other rewards also would have to rotate or some items get devalued too much. But as long as these can be obtained in diffirent ways, there isnt that much of an issue. For example the lvl80 maps could be rotated to 60,70 and 90 maps to balance out drops there (as regardless of map, there normaly is a 1map/day limit when gathering anyway. so effectively all are equal).

But i suspect that the tomes costs on those rewards will be inflated when such event lasts longer. As its still a steady supply, and at some point people will have too much when they already unlocked every collectible.

[DiaDeem]

Most of the rewards are already obtainable without such event anyway. Its generaly just the 100 tomes cosmetic that is event tied. And if that reward is obtainable for a long time, its very unlikely people will miss out on that.

Sure, the other rewards also would have to rotate or some items get devalued too much. But as long as these can be obtained in diffirent ways, there isnt that much of an issue. For example the lvl80 maps could be rotated to 60,70 and 90 maps to balance out drops there (as regardless of map, there normaly is a 1map/day limit when gathering anyway. so effectively all are equal).

But i suspect that the tomes costs on those rewards will be inflated when such event lasts longer. As its still a steady supply, and at some point people will have too much when they already unlocked every collectible.

Yeah I know. I'm just predicting how John Forumite would complain if SE implemented any of these ideas that I've continuously said I like.

[MahthildisMMORPG]

I mean.. there's a lot of things to do, but not every activity is gonna be enjoyed by everyone.

The "issue" with having the Treasure Trove being permanent would be one of two things:
1.- People would no-life it in 2 days and then complain there's nothing else to do
2.- If it actually took time, people will then complain that it's too grindy

So I get what you're saying and in principle, I kinda like it actually and I think it wouldn't hurt just to have around, but it wouldn't solve the issue of the average forum complaint on whatever's the flavor of the month at the time.

Or maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.

then add a cap?