Should Moogle Treasure Trove be Permanent?

[Atelier-Bagur]

So Ive been playing WoW Dragonflight recently and one of the new features that I thought was neat is the whole Trading Post thing where they have you complete monthly activities for rewards that cycle every month.

Pretty much a battlepass; which to my knowledge people seem to either love or hate it.

But in this game, we already have that with the Moogle Tomestone event that happens prior to patch releases and I was thinking considering how people seem to lack things to do in this game, would it be a good idea to maybe have this event be a permanent thing?

I feel it be a nice way for at least recycling old content more frequently and maybe even allow certain mogstation items be available for purchase (obviously a pipe dream), or have some dungeon gear be acquired this way and this all gets cycled every month (one thing the WoW Trading post does is allow you to save specific items for purchasing later even if the month rolls by with new stuff)

Plus it'll also help keep Blue Mage relevant too and maybe finally allow to skew roulette queues to different content besides the usual raids that we see.

Still I dont know if this is a good idea or not. I already can tell people will complain about it, but what do you folks think?

[DiaDeem]

I mean.. there's a lot of things to do, but not every activity is gonna be enjoyed by everyone.

The "issue" with having the Treasure Trove being permanent would be one of two things:
1.- People would no-life it in 2 days and then complain there's nothing else to do
2.- If it actually took time, people will then complain that it's too grindy

So I get what you're saying and in principle, I kinda like it actually and I think it wouldn't hurt just to have around, but it wouldn't solve the issue of the average forum complaint on whatever's the flavor of the month at the time.

Or maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I mean.. there's a lot of things to do, but not every activity is gonna be enjoyed by everyone.

The "issue" with having the Treasure Trove being permanent would be one of two things:
1.- People would no-life it in 2 days and then complain there's nothing else to do
2.- If it actually took time, people will then complain that it's too grindy

So I get what you're saying and in principle, I kinda like it actually and I think it wouldn't hurt just to have around, but it wouldn't solve the issue of the average forum complaint on whatever's the flavor of the month at the time.

Or maybe I'm wrong, I dunno.

Very true, because really, iterally nothing, absolutely NOTHING this MMO or any other MMO does will satisfy the no-lifers as they'll always consume the content faster than they can churn it out. Its happens to every single MMO.

Buuuut like I said, I think the positives outweigh the negatives for this imo. If they circulate the required activities to engage for the tomestones wisely, I feel it'll be more than enough incentive for people to have an excuse to try other avenues. Like imagine if you get moogle tomestones for participating a certain number of Eureka NMs or Bozja Skirmishes, or allow specific pre-Shb zones FATES to give you moogle tomestones. There's numerous ways they can use this to make older content relevant if they play it smart.

[Deo14]

Or they could just finally revamp rewards instead of just relying on roulettes and Moogle Troves. No reason to do old level cap content since you get no exp and you can get loot by unsyncing it, trials basically give nothing, non-CT AR take 2 times longer while giving same rewards (if you don't want specific glam). Even though Swallow's Compass is one of the best dungeon in game, you see it once a year in roulette since it's at old level cap, not in free trial and optional.

Current implementation of Moogle Trove is pretty bad anyways, since you can just use blue mage and be 10 times more effective, which won't help DF. There is also this kind of "battlepass" you speak of in form of Khloe's book, but once again, you can just do 9x ARR EX unsynced solo.

I don't see why would you suggest to make old dungeon gear be sold for moogle tomes. All of this is pointless since you can unsync it solo and get it yourself. It's just hard to make old content meaningful since you can unsync it. Most realistic fix is to put astronomy/causality tomes for doing old content.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Or they could just finally revamp rewards instead of just relying on roulettes and Moogle Troves. No reason to do old level cap content since you get no exp and you can get loot by unsyncing it, trials basically give nothing, non-CT AR take 2 times longer while giving same rewards (if you don't want specific glam). Even though Swallow's Compass is one of the best dungeon in game, you see it once a year in roulette since it's at old level cap, not in free trial and optional.

Current implementation of Moogle Trove is pretty bad anyways, since you can just use blue mage and be 10 times more effective, which won't help DF. There is also this kind of "battlepass" you speak of in form of Khloe's book, but once again, you can just do 9x ARR EX unsynced solo.

I don't see why would you suggest to make old dungeon gear be sold for moogle tomes. All of this is pointless since you can unsync it solo and get it yourself. It's just hard to make old content meaningful since you can unsync it. Most realistic fix is to put astronomy/causality tomes for doing old content.

you do realize that the reason moogle tomestones as a system worked with us is because you CANT unsync the content to earn the tomestones. It has you do them synced. Having some favorable dungeon gear be purchasable is due to the fact that the loot rng can be so bad when you're trying to find that one particular piece. Literally takes forever to do some unsynced runs in dungeons for some of their gear because of the pool table.

[Shinkuno]

you do realize that the reason moogle tomestones as a system worked with us is because you CANT unsync the content to earn the tomestones. It has you do them synced. Having some favorable dungeon gear be purchasable is due to the fact that the loot rng can be so bad when you're trying to find that one particular piece. Literally takes forever to do some unsynced runs in dungeons for some of their gear because of the pool table.

doesnt matter when blue mage is allowed

[DiaDeem]

Buuuut like I said, I think the positives outweigh the negatives for this imo. If they circulate the required activities to engage for the tomestones wisely, I feel it'll be more than enough incentive for people to have an excuse to try other avenues. Like imagine if you get moogle tomestones for participating a certain number of Eureka NMs or Bozja Skirmishes, or allow specific pre-Shb zones FATES to give you moogle tomestones. There's numerous ways they can use this to make older content relevant if they play it smart.

Yeah, like I said: I like the idea. These could help revitalize queues like Ivalice and YoRHa. They're also just great for the Ostensibly Special Timeworn Maps. Guaranteed portals and you can stack them. Love those!

[R041]

Yes, oh my god yes.

We need more stuff like it even. Give us more versions of Wondrous, don't let me Reroll, force me to do content please.

I just want something to do that isn't black and white AFK or Ultimate.

[Espon]

Would I be able to get PvP Series rewards from it? I find PvP frustrating but I have to do it to obtain the rewards.

[NekoMataMata]

Part of what makes events like this special is that it's limited time. It's not like the events are too short or too long either. They're just the right amount of time for most casuals to get what they want, even if what they want is everything.