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    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Personally I don't mind the loot/tome lockouts when the tier is brand new, but it lasts for WAY too long as it is. Both tomestones and raid drops should be 100% unrestricted when the subsequent major patch drops. At that point there is no point in continuing to restrict it, especially when there are sometimes ultimates releasing a week after said patches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Why is getting BiS such a big deal to hardcore raiders when they've usually cleared the content without it in the first place?
    Ultimates, making reclears easier, because they want it.
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
    ...Because it's required for ultimate?
    Did you try reading the rest of what I posted there? Because I did mention Ultimate. And it's only needed for Ultimate assuming there is one and better gear hasn't been released.


    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Ultimates, making reclears easier, because they want it.
    So outside of Ultimate, the same reasons that any one wants gear.

    Why should raiders be an exception when the rest of the player base has to wait to get their gear over time?
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    higher numbers make ppl go brrrr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Why is getting BiS such a big deal to hardcore raiders when they've usually cleared the content without it in the first place?

    You're not going to need it for the next raid release (unless there's an Ultimate coming). New crafted gear will be released with a higher ilvl. And having it equipped is just nerfing the difficulty of everything around you at the same time there are raiders complaining that things are getting too easy.

    Casual players have to wait to get their shinies. Hardcore players have to wait to get theirs. Sounds like everyone being treated the same.
    I have only a surface-level, spectator's understanding of savage/ultimate content, but aren't the margins between success and failure sometimes razor-thin? At least, the random highlight videos or whatever that I come across seem to have an inordinate amount of run-saving healer LB3s or last-second kills before enrage timer fills. I'll grant you that of course, there's a spectacle bias (I guess you could call it?) where only these "clutch" moments end up being recorded and shared, but regardless... Seems as if, if we're talking about gameplay purposes, raiders have a larger reason for wanting/needing the tip-top gear.

    My question stands, though, didn't really get answered... Other than FOMO/envy, why do (OTHER, myself very much included) casual players need this apex gear? Or is that basically what it boils down to, just being upset stuff exists that one can't have?

    I mean hell, look through my meager post history, and just today I said something similar in a thread about pvp rewards... I don't care if people have shiny things I don't, they engaged with the content. It's ridiculous to me how much everyone in this game seems to hate exclusivity, except/unless they are the ones with the exclusive, and meanwhile I'm just like "bro who cares if the person has a virtual spear that's shinier/has more particle effects than mine"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunneva View Post
    I'm a new player and I see a lot of content creators discussing the gearing system and its problems, but It only makes me question "Why is the loot capped?"
    Mainly so we don't have to listen to players complain that they played using an IV and a pee bottle for 3 weeks straight and now that they're out of hospital there's nothing in the game to do.

    Also, WoW has loot lockouts everywhere on M+ and Mythic raids so dunno why you are thinking this is a FF14 only thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Did you try reading the rest of what I posted there? Because I did mention Ultimate. And it's only needed for Ultimate assuming there is one and better gear hasn't been released.
    Yes i know you mentioned it, but you brushed it aside like it wasnt a viable reason lmao. And some BiS changes happen 2 patches AFTER the ult drops, so no, better BiS for current savage doesnt get better gear in the next odd patch :]


    Why should raiders be an exception when the rest of the player base has to wait to get their gear over time?
    Because they complete the harder content and should be rewarded? This cant be a serious take surely?
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