FFXIV Job Design Feedback

[Varia-Androise]

I don't have any worthwhile opinions of my own because I only just started branching outside of Summoner and don't have anything maxed, but I would like to ask for permission to link this thread (and polls of course) to Tumblr. I don't have much but it's existent and I want to get more than just whoever uses the forum some representation.

[ty_taurus]

I don't have any worthwhile opinions of my own because I only just started branching outside of Summoner and don't have anything maxed, but I would like to ask for permission to link this thread (and polls of course) to Tumblr. I don't have much but it's existent and I want to get more than just whoever uses the forum some representation.

Absolutely. I would love to get input from other players. I also intend to do another review thread after the media tour on the perception of the revealed changes, and after a week or two when 7.0 launches. These forms will stay open until then.

[ForsakenRoe]

Absolutely. I would love to get input from other players. I also intend to do another review thread after the media tour on the perception of the revealed changes, and after a week or two when 7.0 launches. These forms will stay open until then.

Oh in that case, I might share it in the chat of some streamers I watch occasionally, didn't want to until express permission was given though. As long as you made a backup of the current data

[ty_taurus]

Oh in that case, I might share it in the chat of some streamers I watch occasionally, didn't want to until express permission was given though. As long as you made a backup of the current data

Everyone is allowed to share this thread as they see fit as well as the links to the forms and spreadsheets. I downloaded each spreadsheet as well, so if you were interested in comparing the responses earned through just the forums with any changes that may come from more submissions from external groups of players, I can share that in some fashion. Not sure what the best way to do that is... I think this link should work?

[Minarisweet]

A little sad SE wont ever bother with surveys like this and not bother with this post either... We wont see any drastic changes to combat in the next expansion.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

I could write you a book but I'll try to keep it to my 2 cents

Tanks
Drk would love for it to have more dark magic and not feel like a WAR
GNB not bad though the dmg buff duration could be better
PLD sad they took the dot the rewoke is meh wish is had more depth but I can live with what it is
WAR I need more buttons or dmg otherwise stop making 2 of the same button its kinda annoying

DPS(Melee)
Sam Needs a rework
MNK need a animation rework and form shift needs to be off the global also take the gauge off of PB
DRG eh I can't say much since I don't play enough but i feel its going in a good direction just needs some spice
RPR wish they were faster or some of their basic abilities where off the global other then that is new so not much to say
NIN either a rework or organize the dang jutsu better don't like the clipping is getting old

DPS(RNG)
MCH get rid of gunfu and bring more of the stuff they been putting out so far feels like a real MCH
BRD needs something to stand out IDK but is hard to pick it over DNC (Maybe another RNG dps would help)

DPS(Magic)
BLM No comment
SUM Basic
RDM Eh solid

Healer
WHT please revert thin air
AST alot to say and yet nothing at all. Its not bad but I still miss Older versions
SCH Basic would love for them to do something more with your summon
SGE love and hate it wish they put the mit on pneuma, wish this and that but just like AST its not bad

Overall healer just feel the plainest to me followed by tanks then RNG

I will add for MCH is the flamethrower skill. I hate that every time I use it on mobs they decide to target my area to force me to stop it. Either make it like a mech that does it for me or Put a canister that spews flames and deals damage to the mobs

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Any way can increase the size on the written feedback section because in current form it cutting off a good chunk of the written responses.

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I had a conversation with someone like this other day to where when I said how community has voice they want something fun and engaging to chew on while they wait and this person respond well they can go back and do x with content with old expansion and I was like yeah but they are payed for similar content in endwalker and square has not for filled. I see player like this if you bring up a issue this game has and idea how they can solve it they want deflect and act like that people are just never happy with ever the develops release in terms of content. Which I think not alot of the playerbase is like that some people want to have more of a reason to login instead just doing three, four weeks of content and not returning until four months later. Like I brought up it would be cool if the housing wards had it own events like how firmament does to get more players to engage in the housing distracts to keep them from bein empty as they are now. They then made a tangent to the real world in where a neighbor you wont see everyone outside hangout in their house and which procced to say this a game and not the real world and for what understood Yoshi P vison for the wards to have a neighborhood atmosphere where people can come social interact with each other. Then they procced to talk about the night clubs that go on in some of wards then I said yeah community through parties in some of the large homies in wards my point was what if square hosted their own event that had it own rewards rather if you own a house or not it give people to go there more often and make feel like a social area. I do feel like that particular side of the playerbase with the mind set oh there plenty of stuff to do in game it just stuff that you don't want to do and just write you off that someone that complains and feel like the devs are doing their best and they don't have no room for creating even more engaging content. I do feel like they are most hard to talk about the state of the game and I mean you can play the game what ever way you like but we cant ignore the fact the devs can improve on some system that have not seen action since when they released.

[ty_taurus]

Any way can increase the size on the written feedback section because in current form it cutting off a good chunk of the written responses.

I have the ability to set a text limit on the written responses, but none of the surveys have that established. If you're hitting a word limit, it's probably a limit on google forms entirely. I was also thinking that I probably should put in a word limit next time I do these actually just because some responses are very large and difficult to display on the feedback spreadsheets without reducing the font size down.

If you're having a difficult time with word limit, I recommend copying your text onto a blank word document and finishing your thoughts there, then go back through the response and find ways to condense the text while still communicating your intentions. It's something I often do whenever I feel like I have a lot to say about something.

[ForsakenRoe]

If you're having a difficult time with word limit, I recommend copying your text onto a blank word document and finishing your thoughts there, then go back through the response and find ways to condense the text while still communicating your intentions. It's something I often do whenever I feel like I have a lot to say about something.

I think it's not so much word limit, but how the sheet displays longer responses. Perfect example is #45 for BRD on the 'Ranged answers' sheet, it's so long due to having two 'directions' suggested that it got squished to almost illegibly small font size. Though I suppose by going on the BRD specific sheet, clicking the cell, and reading it's contents via the 'formula bar' at the top is a potential workaround

Also could you edit the OP to say 'please feel free to share this as much as possible' to incentivize it getting propagated around community

I will add for MCH is the flamethrower skill. I hate that every time I use it on mobs they decide to target my area to force me to stop it. Either make it like a mech that does it for me or Put a canister that spews flames and deals damage to the mobs

I was thinking, what if they reduce Flamethrower to a 5s channel, and make it do double damage when BioBlaster is applied to the enemy? That way, it's a definite gain to use Bio > Flamethrower on 2, and even a gain to do one of your three drills as Bio > FT on one target (it'd be 300 from Bio, plus 160 x 5 ticks from FT, vs flat 600 from Drill). I guess it's kinda similar to how NIN subs out one Raiton out of 3 per 60s loop to do Suiton for Trick