FFXIV Job Design Feedback

[ForsakenRoe]

Yeh if I see Bard at a 6 and healers overall at a 5 (or slightly less for AST), it doesn't say to me 'there is sampling bias', it tells me that both camps see there's a lot of room for improvement. With BRD, I assume that quite a few believe a previous incarnation of BRD was better, likely SB when the DOTs were a more integral part of your kit (they triggered your procs on crit after all), and they still had powerful useful utility skills like Refresh, Palisade, Tactician (lol TP), Minne's CD was busted good back then too iirc

Now, if they were to delete the DOTs from BRD because they don't really do anything anymore, I'd expect that 6 to go straight down to a 3 or less, because then they would be one step closer to that glorious 'one button, one braincell, impossible to f*** up' gameplay that everyone subconsciously desires /s

edit: my theory on why BRD is 6 and healers are 5 or less: they're both in the position of 'they function i guess, but the older versions were way more fun'. But the difference that gives BRD that extra point is that 'BRD retains some of it's interesting gameplay when doing solo stuff', you still have your songs, your DOTs, your procs

I'm pointing out there are four camps in the question bank, so that's the best way to make a parallel. It's very likely if you asked "remove DPS buttons", there would be a few takers (not many, but more than zero - had a few in the long-form survey say that's what they wanted, too). But we can't just make what we want, we have to work with the questions asked. No change isn't necessarily the opposite of "Major Overhaul", but that's another point entirely.

Again, subjective causes problems. I'd consider "No change" to be literally NO CHANGE, so Expansion alterations would be considered very minor changes, especially if they actually change the rotation at all. For example, WAR got Primal Rend, and while it's very small, it changes the rotation of the Job, so that's not "No change".

If you want to look at 'no change' as literally zero changes, that's fine. But you have to also remember, 'absolutely zero changes whatsoever' is never going to occur when an expansion comes out (which would be the best time to rework things anyway). So right off the bat, that category is an impossibility, because 'some changes' is a literal selling point for the expansion. While I can't speak for anyone else, I'd assume that at least some respondents would have thought similarly

The only way 'no changes at all' would work is if the reworks occurred in a random patch like 'oh it's 7.1 here's a big overhaul of how SCH works, have fun learning how it works in two weeks before the new ultimate lands', so that the expansion changes had already occurred by that point. But then, if the expansion had added stuff, that breaks the whole 'no changes at all' clause, doesn't it, what a conundrum