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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    Maybe they really killed him because they had 'somehow' the same jobclass. I miss the little guy so much. Can't say why but I don't like Y'shtola a lot.
    They killed him and Yda cause they didn't fit the narrative tbh., no place anymore for the comedic duo in the story after 1.0. That's why they killed him and butchered Yda.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    They killed him and Yda cause they didn't fit the narrative tbh., no place anymore for the comedic duo in the story after 1.0. That's why they killed him and butchered Yda.
    Neither of them were actually there if you think about it. Both were pretty forgettable, and barely had any personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    They killed him and Yda cause they didn't fit the narrative tbh., no place anymore for the comedic duo in the story after 1.0. That's why they killed him and butchered Yda.
    Feel the same way. In fact I think Pala went to pave the way for Yda's exist. The scion went from a small support faction to an all important world power, and its member are shown to have an equal sitting as the leaders in discussing state matter. Maybe they felt the stereotype dumb blonde can't be a good fit anymore.

    But I missed both of them. The current scion are all serious type, and most good set of characters need a one or two simple joker and muscle head to keep the balance. Also a simple muscle head like Yda can be a valuable outlet for extra exposition when the writer feels they need to explain something in more detail. All the current scion are also too much in synch which may be what make them boring to some, but that's why it helps to have a character in the group that may not be on the same wave length with the rest all the time.


    Looking at the current pool of whom may become new Scion in the feature, they're still all serious characters (like Zero or Fordola). Regardless of what people may think about Yda as a character, her old "archetype" is something the Scion current composition is badly missing.
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    *sulks*
    *tips fedora*
    "I did it because I wanted to."
    B r a v o Y o s h i
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    They killed him and Yda cause they didn't fit the narrative tbh., no place anymore for the comedic duo in the story after 1.0. That's why they killed him and butchered Yda.
    Sad :c
    He was my favourite scion.

    Yet I can't say much about Zero. But atm she feels not very interesting to me. I also disliked Zenos a lot. And so I also dislike it when this char gets mentioned by Zero again and again.

    Maybe I like Zero more later, but atm MSQ feels really boring to me, thb. It's the first time that I feel like this. But maybe it's not because the story is bad. Maybe it's just because the first big story arc is over and it takes time to build up the new one. : )
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    All this talk of Papalymo just reminds me how much he didn't work for me lol. I understand it was supposed to be funny, and more seriously that he was very protective of her, but I often felt he was too unkind to Yda/Lyse.

    Different strokes for different folks, but I was low-key an itty bitty tiny bit relieved when he was killed, and I always forget about him entirely until the game randomly reminds me, or moments like these when someone else brings him up.

    That said, I thought his death (much like Haurchefant's imo) was sudden, unimpactful, and anticlimactic. Unlike Haurchefant, though, his death was handled in such a way that I was honestly surprised he was actually dead. Up until the moment The Aitiascope both reminded me that he'd ever existed in the first place and that he was definitely actually dead, I wouldn't have been surprised if he had ended up turning up alive at some point. But here we are!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnintino View Post
    That said, I thought his death (much like Haurchefant's imo) was sudden, unimpactful, and anticlimactic. Unlike Haurchefant, though, his death was handled in such a way that I was honestly surprised he was actually dead. Up until the moment The Aitiascope both reminded me that he'd ever existed in the first place and that he was definitely actually dead, I wouldn't have been surprised if he had ended up turning up alive at some point. But here we are!
    This is pretty much me every time a character death happens in FF XIV.



    I just can't force myself to care.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 03-25-2023 at 10:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    This is pretty much me every time a character death happens in FF XIV.



    I just can't force myself to care.
    Same. Perhaps I'd care a bit more if the characters killed off weren't irrelevant side characters. I don't find the death of that satrap dude we meet 5 minutes ago to be compelling. There hasn't been a good protagonist death since Heavensward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Same. Perhaps I'd care a bit more if the characters killed off weren't irrelevant side characters. I don't find the death of that satrap dude we meet 5 minutes ago to be compelling. There hasn't been a good protagonist death since Heavensward.
    The same Heavensward that undid a bunch of consequences from the end of ARR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    This is pretty much me every time a character death happens in FF XIV.

    I just can't force myself to care.
    Up until 4.0, I would say yes. They were killing characters left and right for very little reason beside a short-burst impact with very actual narrative or story reason. Haurchefant's death formula was so typical and his death scene was so bad that's my reaction during his scene was just "really? that's just stupid". I bet the story writer looked at Moraeby's death and was like "ohhh look like people like it, so let's do it again!"

    IMO from 4.0 onward the writing has become a lot more "mature", ironically because they stop using these death as fake inflation for a character's worth, instead actually write something substantial to make me care about them.
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