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    The twins exist, so no, Zero is not the most unlikable.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    The most unlikeable character is actually the WoL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    The most unlikeable character is actually the WoL.
    but you make the WOL... xD
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    Yuki Yagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikizza View Post
    but you make the WOL... xD
    Or did we...?
    https://youtu.be/mfhBM_Yay6w
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Hrothgar so done with being second class that they summon their own primal to give them hair.
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    Matsya is an elephant. I cant blame them for not casting the voice to a talking elephant.

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    Selene Halflight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    The most unlikeable character is actually the WoL.
    +1
    Broken pls nerf..,

    jokes aside, not much to say in a thread that is all over the scale of good or bad writing.
    and sadly no proper way to objectively tell him bad/acceptable/good it is, specially this early.
    as well as knowing many would say good<not counting the mythical tempered, if there are any>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikizza View Post
    but you make the WOL... xD
    Yeah but if you think about it. Our character is the biggest Mary Sue in the entire game. Is easily well liked by almost everyone, can master every job, their FFsoul belongs to a mysterious but powerful character, is besties with 2 main villains, can summon allies whenever they please and theyre lives are considered to have the most painful backstory because of all they go through even though your average Ala Mhigan has endured worse.

    Lets face it, our character is the worst written one out of the entire cast. I love my guy but hate how theyre treated as being extremely speshul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    +1
    Broken pls nerf..,
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Yeah but if you think about it. Our character is the biggest Mary Sue in the entire game. .
    Are you sure about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Yeah but if you think about it. Our character is the biggest Mary Sue in the entire game. Is easily well liked by almost everyone, can master every job, their FFsoul belongs to a mysterious but powerful character, is besties with 2 main villains, can summon allies whenever they please and theyre lives are considered to have the most painful backstory because of all they go through even though your average Ala Mhigan has endured worse.

    Lets face it, our character is the worst written one out of the entire cast. I love my guy but hate how theyre treated as being extremely speshul.
    But isnt that every playable character in every rpg game ever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikizza View Post
    But isnt that every playable character in every rpg game ever?
    Not really, no? it's certainly far more of a thing in recent times, like the past 10 years or so, but let's take the Hero from DQ VIII as an example, nicknamed "Eight" for convenience, Eight is not a Chosen One, he is never stated to be particularly skilled at anything besides fighting, and not even all forms of combat, Jessica is explicitly far more powerful as a spellcaster for example, or even be the most beloved character by everyone in the party, he does share a special connection with Princess Medea and she is his love interest, but they are also childhood friends so that's properly contextualized, he is simply a kind-hearted individual who has a strong loyalty to King Trode due to Trode arranging for him to be taken care of when he was found lost in the woods.

    Now compare to the FFXIV's WoL, per the narrative, you are an unstoppable beast in combat, you are the Chosen One of:

    - Hydaelyn.
    - A-Towa-Cant, so special in fact that you get to break a lore limitation.
    - The Eye of Nidhogg, when there was already a Chosen One for it around, in fact.
    - Shatotto.
    - Every single Soul Crystal that seem to react extremely strongly to your presence.

    This is nothing to say that you are the reincarnation of a member of the Convocation of the Fourteen, who was also one of Emet-Selch's closest friends, and Venat's direct successor, you are also the most skilled Carpenter/Blacksmith/Armorer/Goldsmith/Leatherworker/Waver/Alchemist/Culinarian that the respective guilds have ever seen, and you are barred from the top spot in those roles only by a very tiny handful of characters like Gerolt, Godbert, and Julyan, the latter two of which are outright gag characters, and the former might as well be one.

    I may have overindulged, but I was attempting to illustrate the point of the stark difference between two Square Enix main characters.
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    Sapphire Heavenchild
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    Shiva
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    Should've killed Y'shtola off and kept Papalymo around instead, but I guess they can't sell body pillows of him.
    Maybe they really killed him because they had 'somehow' the same jobclass. I miss the little guy so much. Can't say why but I don't like Y'shtola a lot.
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