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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryutamashiisan View Post
    The rewards aren't good enough to justify dealing with RNG party members and a de-ranking system that isn't entirely based on skill and partially based on RNG.

    When you can just queue casual and get the same experience.
    exactly, therefore CC ranked dies yet the mode itself survives in casual form, maybe ranked pvp just... maybe should not be supported anymore? history keeps repeating itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryutamashiisan View Post
    The rewards aren't good enough to justify dealing with RNG party members and a de-ranking system that isn't entirely based on skill and partially based on RNG.

    When you can just queue casual and get the same experience.
    You have to carry...this is literally how ranked works in every game with a team based ranked mode where there is a solo queue. If you're constantly losing, the common denominator is always you. There will be games that are a wash sometimes, but if you're good you can climb and carry your way to crsytal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    You have to carry...this is literally how ranked works in every game with a team based ranked mode where there is a solo queue. If you're constantly losing, the common denominator is always you. There will be games that are a wash sometimes, but if you're good you can climb and carry your way to crsytal.
    Ignore this man, he got very lucky. I dueled him on his server with 300 ping and won 10 times in a row. (true)
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    Give me more Keeper of the Moon rep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Ignore this man, he got very lucky. I dueled him on his server with 300 ping and won 10 times in a row. (true)
    I wish this were true. No one ever duels me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    exactly, therefore CC ranked dies yet the mode itself survives in casual form, maybe ranked pvp just... maybe should not be supported anymore? history keeps repeating itself.
    ...or we could stop going in circles with this discussion and simply start with basic requests like an actual Ranked currency you get from playing Ranked, not this meme that is Trophy Crystals which can be obtained in Casual play.

    Details are up in the stars, but generally I recommend promotion of all skill tiers (Bronze to Crystal) by giving a greater bulk based on your skill tier at the end of the season and also additional currency for each match - however, only a fraction of it for losing (20-30% to ensure you still get something, but don't get to be efficient spamming losses).

    Casual works because it is casual, an entry mode for anyone. Ranked needs incentive for being the version that isn't the path of least resistence aka Casual. Plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    ...or we could stop going in circles with this discussion and simply start with basic requests like an actual Ranked currency you get from playing Ranked, not this meme that is Trophy Crystals which can be obtained in Casual play.

    Details are up in the stars, but generally I recommend promotion of all skill tiers (Bronze to Crystal) by giving a greater bulk based on your skill tier at the end of the season and also additional currency for each match - however, only a fraction of it for losing (20-30% to ensure you still get something, but don't get to be efficient spamming losses).

    Casual works because it is casual, an entry mode for anyone. Ranked needs incentive for being the version that isn't the path of least resistence aka Casual. Plain and simple.
    talking in circles? dude thats me sticking to the thread topic lmfao
    also your suggestion is just a slightly better version of the feast reward system lol wont help anything in the long run
    then again i don't think anything is gonna save ranked at this point and your suggestion would still lead to history repeating.
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    Last edited by Towa-Musa; 03-29-2023 at 11:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    talking in circles? dude thats me sticking to the thread topic lmfao
    also your suggestion is just a slightly better version of the feast reward system lol wont help anything in the long run
    then again i don't think anything is gonna save ranked at this point and your suggestion would still lead to history repeating.
    You claim it will lead to history of repeating, but what do you have to compare as a suggestion? You are all doom and gloom, say nothing will work yet nothing is ever done so how do you know?

    The worst thing right now is there being no action done at all or advocating for removal (not what you did, but I'm mentioning this for others). Maybe I'm too idealistic for my own good, but I don't see it being in the grave yet, which is why I advocate for small but steady steps to improve PvP rather than "wham bam there it works and is perfect" solutions that don't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    You claim it will lead to history of repeating, but what do you have to compare as a suggestion? You are all doom and gloom, say nothing will work yet nothing is ever done so how do you know?

    The worst thing right now is there being no action done at all or advocating for removal (not what you did, but I'm mentioning this for others). Maybe I'm too idealistic for my own good, but I don't see it being in the grave yet, which is why I advocate for small but steady steps to improve PvP rather than "wham bam there it works and is perfect" solutions that don't exist.
    I know because this crap happened in feast, people stopped caring about it except a hand full of glam thirsty people. if you were not a certain rank at a certain point in the season you were not getting a group, rampant win trading.
    Whats happening right now? people stopped caring, people can't que in ranked, people complaining about win trading and now people complaining about ranked basically being all but dead. history is literally repeating.
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    Because it's the opposite lol, and casual is way more fun than sweating and getting mad you lost stars in ranked. Also rewards suck and not worth the headache playing ranked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    I know because this crap happened in feast, people stopped caring about it except a hand full of glam thirsty people. if you were not a certain rank at a certain point in the season you were not getting a group, rampant win trading.
    Whats happening right now? people stopped caring, people can't que in ranked, people complaining about win trading and now people complaining about ranked basically being all but dead. history is literally repeating.
    All I’m hearing from those who praised the kicking out of 98% of players from rank is massive cope. They got what they ask for. I’ve read that comment too. Just scratching my head, what the hell…. Have they learned nothing?
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