Please stop putting the Crystalline Conflict Glamour Coffer at Rank 25

[SillyCrow]

I think the most ethical way to deal with this is put the exclusive items in an in-game shop after a set time. I think selling them for crystals (maybe for a larger amount) so players still have to play the same PvP mode.

[Stormpeaks]

I think the most ethical way to deal with this is put the exclusive items in an in-game shop after a set time. I think selling them for crystals (maybe for a larger amount) so players still have to play the same PvP mode.

Or just do it when its current, you have multiple months to get it, so no. It's not "ethical" to do it that way, it's just lazy. If you dont want to do the content, dont, it's a glam, you dont NEED it.

[SillyCrow]

Or just do it when its current, you have multiple months to get it, so no. It's not "ethical" to do it that way, it's just lazy. If you dont want to do the content, dont, it's a glam, you dont NEED it.

Dunno why you call it lazy. They still need to get the currency. It just gets rid of the limited time frame while giving the exclusivity time for people who put in the effort to get it during the season.

[Stormpeaks]

Dunno why you call it lazy. They still need to get the currency. It just gets rid of the limited time frame while giving the exclusivity time for people who put in the effort to get it during the season.

Except its not currency, you need to do the malmstones to get it, you have 3 to 4 months to get it, you have all the time in the world.

Currency is easy as hell to get, I'm capped on it all the time just by playing it extra casually doing a few games every few days, so no.

Either you put in the work while its current, which you have months to get, and you get the glam, or you dont.

[SillyCrow]

Except its not currency, you need to do the malmstones to get it, you have 3 to 4 months to get it, you have all the time in the world.

Currency is easy as hell to get, I'm capped on it all the time just by playing it extra casually doing a few games every few days, so no.

Either you put in the work while its current, which you have months to get, and you get the glam, or you dont.

If it's so easy to get then why does the exclusivity matter so much to you then? I don't get it.

[4clubbedace]

Or just do it when its current, you have multiple months to get it, so no. It's not "ethical" to do it that way, it's just lazy. If you dont want to do the content, dont, it's a glam, you dont NEED it.

weve talked about this time and time again, FOMO is bad design

theres very little other content where the rewards are gone forever if youre not there to do it, new players can still do old ultimates, they havnt gone away. Seasonal events get put in the cashop the next year. Theres no reason to not have old rewards come back later for new people to grind for.

Also, this still keeps PVP alive, as if you tie it to PVP CURRENCY, then it will remain

[Stormpeaks]

weve talked about this time and time again, FOMO is bad design

theres very little other content where the rewards are gone forever if youre not there to do it, new players can still do old ultimates, they havnt gone away. Seasonal events get put in the cashop the next year. Theres no reason to not have old rewards come back later for new people to grind for.

Also, this still keeps PVP alive, as if you tie it to PVP CURRENCY, then it will remain

I mean we can agree to disagree, I think the system is fine as it is, if you cant do the content in 4 months of time, which barely takes any time at all, it is what it is, then you wont get the reward tied to it, I think that's perfectly fine. I dont expect to get things from the past given to me because I didnt play back then, some things are exclusive and it is what it is, and yes that means even via currency, World of Warcraft also has the elite set that is exclusive for the pvp season, and I see nothing wrong with that.

[4clubbedace]

I mean we can agree to disagree, I think the system is fine as it is, if you cant do the content in 4 months of time, which barely takes any time at all, it is what it is, then you wont get the reward tied to it, I think that's perfectly fine. I dont expect to get things from the past given to me because I didnt play back then, some things are exclusive and it is what it is, and yes that means even via currency, World of Warcraft also has the elite set that is exclusive for the pvp season, and I see nothing wrong with that.

yeah, complete disagree, complete bullshit

adding it as a collar currency buy would have it so new people getting into it
1) still have to grind, "laziness" as an argument would no longer work, work still has to be done
2)would make pvp last a bit more per series so new people can get it after they hit milestone on whatever the current season pass is

having things gone forever is not grand

[Commander_Justitia]

Bless SE devs for replacing top100 exclusive PvP items with an exclusive item grind season - while the live letter got translated in a way that made people assume exclusivity is finally gone. I was worried for a second we wouldn't get salty threads anymore.

[CerusSerenade]

It's funny that the argument people are using to defend FOMO pass systems are:

1. "Rewards should take effort."

and

2. "It doesn't take that long anyway."

First, whether you play 100 games over a year, or a 100 games in a month, the effort is same. You played 100 games. The problem isn't with the "effort", it's that we have to make that effort in a specific time frame when many of us don't have that kind of time, or at the very least don't want to spend what time we have on a game mode we dislike because if we don't we're barred out of the rewards forever. We're not arguing that they "be handed out for free" like people keep arguing without actually reading what they're responding to. We just want the time limitation removed because FOMO passes have always been manipulative and unpleasant.

Second, it doesn't matter if "it doesn't take that long", you're talking about 15 straight hours of nothing but PVP. Some of us want to space it out, some us would like to do other things, but just the EXISTENCE of the FOMO pass means we have that stress about having to eventually go back to the grind.

We don't time limit relics, or Ultimates, or anything other than seasonal events which take an hour TOPS. I really don't understand how hard it is to just agree that so long as you put in the time in those games, WHEN you play those games doesn't matter, you still put in the same effort as everyone else.