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    Rant: The TT card in Eureka orthos

    I'm annoyed by this one, why do you keep doing that kind of thing, putting the cards behind high difficulty content?

    You already did that kind of thing putting a few cards behind extremes. Not a fan, but why not, with a team that knows what it does, it's ok. Plus with time they can be unsynced.
    Then there was the Masked Carnival ones. God I have ptsd about those (I'm part of the people that HATE the masked carnival).

    But this time, it's rng + having a premade party. Nothing wrong with rng, we're used to it. The second part is more problematic.

    I tried to ask the people in my FC, sadly, those who were up for it had no saves open anymore. So I went for the PF.

    I don't know how it happens on other data centers, but let me tell of my experience on mine. Passed the first week, people that want to do those deep dungeons are the people doing it for the points. Right, now, they ask to already have 60/60 aetherpool, even 90/90. You either have to be ready to spend several hours with people that don't have interest in hidden treasures, and just hope there will be one on the way, either do your own pf, with the risk of still having one of those guy that just run his own way and try to rush thing even when you specified no rush, and will act passive aggressive the whole time.

    Then comes the boss of the 40th floor that can OS a team. Nice, so you put a boss that absolutely need a guide (or know the strat from a content you yourself have abandonned, I mean let's face it, you removed bahamut raids from the roulettes, how do you want the average joe to know what to do). You'll tell me, "Of course, floor 31+ are supposed to be high difficulty", but that's the whole point of this useless rant.

    It looks like a middle finger to people that have no interest in try harding high difficulty content (I'm pretty sure that was not the goal, but that's what it looks like), which is, from what I got, most of your community. It's not even that it is long. Hell, I totally unlocked Eureka for a few cards. I would totally dig having them in bronze-tinged sacks, even with an abysmal chance to get them, because you wouldn't spend at least 30 to 40 min (it was closer than an hour each time for me, but I'm sure some people play better) to die at the lvl 40 boss and get nothing.

    And that's 10 days after the launch of the thing? How will it be in a few month? PoD and Pillar are not really popular content, so making a team to get a card there in a few month will be a fun experience.

    It's just frustrating and no fun at all. It just feels like a chore.

    If you ever see a need to handle that matter, here is my opinion on how to deal with it :
    - making it available on stage 1 to 30 (either on the boss, either with EO money, either on bronze-tinged sacks)
    - make floor 31 to 50 accessible by party making.
    - add more saves in deep dungeons. As I stated several people in my FC couldn't help because they had one save for their solo try, and another already running. on long term. Having one or 2 more saves would allow people to do them with more different groups.
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    Last edited by CNitsah; 05-23-2024 at 12:34 AM.

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    I feel your pain… I have every card except this and the one the Loporrits will eventually sell me for carats. The hardest part is finding a party. I did 1-30 easy, because there was matching for that. While I’d like to get all the cool titles and achievements eventually, I really just want the damn TT card. And with only 2 saves, I’m going to have to burn one every time I get a new group through PF. That and the sacks are RNG…

    I worked my butt off to get the card mount and suffered through the RNG platinum packs of the tournament to get all the rare cards. I’d much rather the TT card be a random drop from the boss pictured, because at least I could get a party for that over and over. If the boss is in the 1-30 range, you should be able to get the card from there. Or make it available to buy for MGP from the Gold Saucer after you’ve cleared the boss’s fight.
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    wait, which card?
    Gan? or is there some other one..,
    I got multiple of those from a low tier sack.

    as for clearing higher tiers, it's really only practice.., a simple explanation or learning will get you through.., it's largely just know what it does in its basics, like always run when near cast end.., and you good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    wait, which card?
    Gan? or is there some other one..,
    I got multiple of those from a low tier sack.

    as for clearing higher tiers, it's really only practice.., a simple explanation or learning will get you through.., it's largely just know what it does in its basics, like always run when near cast end.., and you good.
    That's weird, because even the game tells you you can't get it from low tier sack.

    And as I mentionned, the problem is not so much cleaning the stages than finding a party that will take time to try to get the sacks, and not a party that just want to rush the deep dungeon. I got several party that cleared 40 and/or 50, but everytime, once the portal was up, there was no one to try to get object/chest. Heck I even did one were we had the total of 0 poms that reveal the hidden chest, because they had no interest in gold chest.
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    well best of luck on the card hunt..,
    I mostly had my PFs set with [Start 21] [Aetherpool is primary] [Far as we can, or not..,]
    and was largely lucky on the people joining.

    As many join me on Aether grinds, and we get far, even if I have to solo some bosses.
    [or get saved on my first full clear by a healer.]
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    Git gud lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    But this time, it's rng + having a premade party. Nothing wrong with rng, we're used to it. The second part is more problematic.
    You can always go solo you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BristolRuss View Post
    You can always go solo you know?
    I'm not sure I'll even reach stage 40 solo. with all those OS mobs in 30+, I'll for sure do an error at one time. Call me bad if you want, but I don't care, that's the whole point of this thread. why are some triple triads cards rewards on par extreme mounts while 99% of the TT content is aimed for casual play. A lot of RNG, a lot of unlocking behind side quests/stories sure. But only 6 cards (or 3, depending of your take on the masked carnivale) on 377 are behind high difficulty content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    I'm not sure I'll even reach stage 40 solo. with all those OS mobs in 30+, I'll for sure do an error at one time. Call me bad if you want, but I don't care, that's the whole point of this thread. why are some triple triads cards rewards on par extreme mounts while 99% of the TT content is aimed for casual play. A lot of RNG, a lot of unlocking behind side quests/stories sure. But only 6 cards (or 3, depending of your take on the masked carnivale) on 377 are behind high difficulty content.
    If you make sure your aetherpool armor and weapon are high enough, as well as read up on some of the abilities used by the floor 31-40 mobs, you shouldn't really have too much of an issue soloing it. Maygi has made an informative guide on pretty much everything Eureka Orthos, noting any important abilities that you'll have to look out for.

    Alternatively, going in with just one other player should make it easy/safer to farm silver sacks for the card.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Do you not get that some of these cards have a drop rate of LESS THAN 1%!?

    Come on...
    The Gancanagh card is unlikely to have a <1% drop rate. Had it drop from one of the first silver sacks I obtained, along with a few others that I ran with when trying to go for a floor 100 clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    If you make sure your aetherpool armor and weapon are high enough, as well as read up on some of the abilities used by the floor 31-40 mobs, you shouldn't really have too much of an issue soloing it. Maygi has made an informative guide on pretty much everything Eureka Orthos, noting any important abilities that you'll have to look out for.

    Alternatively, going in with just one other player should make it easy/safer to farm silver sacks for the card.


    The Gancanagh card is unlikely to have a <1% drop rate. Had it drop from one of the first silver sacks I obtained, along with a few others that I ran with when trying to go for a floor 100 clear.
    So the answer is to spend hours farming Aetherpool gear, then be sure to read a guide from an external source, then fight RNG to get the accursed hoard, THEN fight RNG AGAIN to hope you obtain it from the silver sack. . .

    to obtain a TT card that should be from an NPC (you know, actual triple triad play) or should logically drop from the floor 10 boss (which it represents).

    I know CBU3 has a hard time understanding this concept, but RNG on top of RNG isn't fun. It's frustrating. If they wanted to put it in Eureka Orthos, fine, that's their decision. But it should have been a reward from the floor 10 boss or from the Aetherpool fragments so any player can realistically solo it.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 03-20-2023 at 12:40 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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