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    I guess the point the OP is making is "why is there the mini-loading screen at all?" If they don't want to change how raise works (raised character teleported to the mage's position) - they could remove the blackout screen by just making raise act like a Rescue-Raise. Pull the character to you, then raise them. Done. No need for that screen.

    Personally, having the screen blackout means you might miss the next mechanic's tells - and then you might wind up dead again anyway if rez invuln wears off before the telegraph does. Not being able to see what is going on during that time can put a player in a rez loop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    If they don't want to change how raise works (raised character teleported to the mage's position) - they could remove the blackout screen by just making raise act like a Rescue-Raise. Pull the character to you, then raise them. Done. No need for that screen.
    They can't. It doesn't work that way. Movement abilities (Rescue, Jump, Shukuchi , etc) are just that. Movement. They're all still tied to the ground and everything on it. Ever try to Shukuchi over or Rescue someone across a death puddle or a gap in a platform? Yeah... That's why they can't just make Raise work like Rescue. Otherwise you'd try to raise someone on the opposite Diamond platform and the corpse would just slide off into the sky.

    As for why even short range teleports require a loading screen in the first place, who knows? Personally my guess is either old tech, an anti-botting mechanic (trying to curb teleport hacks), or both, but really it could be anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    They can't. It doesn't work that way. Movement abilities (Rescue, Jump, Shukuchi , etc) are just that. Movement. They're all still tied to the ground and everything on it. Ever try to Shukuchi over or Rescue someone across a death puddle or a gap in a platform? Yeah... That's why they can't just make Raise work like Rescue. Otherwise you'd try to raise someone on the opposite Diamond platform and the corpse would just slide off into the sky.

    As for why even short range teleports require a loading screen in the first place, who knows? Personally my guess is either old tech, an anti-botting mechanic (trying to curb teleport hacks), or both, but really it could be anything.
    Fair points.

    Sounds like PS2 limitations though (FFXI reference)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    They can't. It doesn't work that way.
    They can. The way it works can be changed. That's what programmers are for. There's no way the code that currently handles it is so complicated it can't easily be modified to raise and move your character safely without blacking the screen, because that's exactly what it already does while the screen is black. The black screen is 100% an aesthetic decision to prevent you from seeing your camera snap to the new location. It's not a technical issue. It can be removed.
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