Remove black screen fade when taking resurrection

[ArcaneToast]

Hi all, this was just a random thought I had about the black screen that fades in and out when you accept a resurrection from another player, is it really necessary? It's a very minor inconvenience when in a raid for example, but healer LB3 doesn't have this screen effect. I can only imagine the difference here is that LB3 resurrection doesn't teleport your character, and because of that the teleport screen fade is just something technical.

I'm curious to see what people think of it, would you prefer your rez to not include the screen fade?

[Brightamethyst]

I can only imagine the difference here is that LB3 resurrection doesn't teleport your character, and because of that the teleport screen fade is just something technical.

Exactly. LB3 raises you right where you are while normal raise teleports you to the caster first, hence the mini loading screen.

[Shinkuno]

Exactly. LB3 raises you right where you are while normal raise teleports you to the caster first, hence the mini loading screen.

If that bit of distance warrants a loadscreen, the engine will never support their supposed 10 years of content

[Equitable_Remedy]

If that bit of distance warrants a loadscreen, the engine will never support their supposed 10 years of content

I'm willing to bet that I could find someone saying about the same 10 years ago ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[dspguy]

I guess the point the OP is making is "why is there the mini-loading screen at all?" If they don't want to change how raise works (raised character teleported to the mage's position) - they could remove the blackout screen by just making raise act like a Rescue-Raise. Pull the character to you, then raise them. Done. No need for that screen.

Personally, having the screen blackout means you might miss the next mechanic's tells - and then you might wind up dead again anyway if rez invuln wears off before the telegraph does. Not being able to see what is going on during that time can put a player in a rez loop.

[Brightamethyst]

If they don't want to change how raise works (raised character teleported to the mage's position) - they could remove the blackout screen by just making raise act like a Rescue-Raise. Pull the character to you, then raise them. Done. No need for that screen.

They can't. It doesn't work that way. Movement abilities (Rescue, Jump, Shukuchi , etc) are just that. Movement. They're all still tied to the ground and everything on it. Ever try to Shukuchi over or Rescue someone across a death puddle or a gap in a platform? Yeah... That's why they can't just make Raise work like Rescue. Otherwise you'd try to raise someone on the opposite Diamond platform and the corpse would just slide off into the sky.

As for why even short range teleports require a loading screen in the first place, who knows? Personally my guess is either old tech, an anti-botting mechanic (trying to curb teleport hacks), or both, but really it could be anything.

[dspguy]

They can't. It doesn't work that way. Movement abilities (Rescue, Jump, Shukuchi , etc) are just that. Movement. They're all still tied to the ground and everything on it. Ever try to Shukuchi over or Rescue someone across a death puddle or a gap in a platform? Yeah... That's why they can't just make Raise work like Rescue. Otherwise you'd try to raise someone on the opposite Diamond platform and the corpse would just slide off into the sky.

As for why even short range teleports require a loading screen in the first place, who knows? Personally my guess is either old tech, an anti-botting mechanic (trying to curb teleport hacks), or both, but really it could be anything.

Fair points.

Sounds like PS2 limitations though (FFXI reference)

[Rongway]

They can't. It doesn't work that way.

They can. The way it works can be changed. That's what programmers are for. There's no way the code that currently handles it is so complicated it can't easily be modified to raise and move your character safely without blacking the screen, because that's exactly what it already does while the screen is black. The black screen is 100% an aesthetic decision to prevent you from seeing your camera snap to the new location. It's not a technical issue. It can be removed.

[Xirean]

I think this is a decent idea however since we're talking about adjusting raises, can we get some sort of indicator as the person being raised where we will be getting up? I'd like to know if where I will be standing is covered in fire or not.

[ryouma17]

its probably a PS3 limitation was that overlooked when the ps3 was phased out, and yes i agree it needs to be removed