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  1. #21
    Player
    Rongway's Avatar
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    Cyrillo Rongway
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    That's wild people do that, because there's an ingame function for this already that doesn't use the macro system.
    That keybind can only change one hotbar, and because of the job's action set you might have affected buttons on multiple hotbars. It rarely makes sense to put all the buttons that need to be swapped on the same one hotbar just because they are the buttons that need to be swapped. Buttons go where they make sense, then you worry about hotbar swaps. See especially: SAM.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 03-17-2023 at 01:07 PM.

  2. #22
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    Remolia's Avatar
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    Remi Poemi
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    MO for healing spells. MO for Rescue. MO for Provoke. MO for Esuna.

    Macro to swap targets between focus and current target.
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  3. #23
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    X'toldha Bihlr
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 3
    Healing macros are a godsend. Some examples are

    /merror off
    /ac “Aquaveil” <tt>
    /micon “Aquaveil“

    Casts Aquaveil on highest enmity tank. Same can be done with Divine Benison or Sage shields.

    /merror off
    /ac “Liturgy of the Bell” <t>
    /ac “Liturgy of the Bell” <tt>
    /ac “Liturgy of the Bell” <me>
    /micon “Liturgy of the Bell”

    Ground target abilities, casts Bell on the target, tank or yourself. Manual placement of these is often not necessary. Just keep in mind that abilities like healer bubble you want to place on tank or target instead of yourself.

    Combat macros that delay your rotation however? Don't do it. Reaper can perfectly fit single target and AoE rotation on two separate hotbars.
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  4. #24
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    UkcsAlias's Avatar
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    Character
    Aergrael Iyrnrael
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Meowdyj View Post
    Ground target abilities
    For me these are the only macros that are reliable enough. Since macros cannot be queued and requires the GCD to allow casting, the only way i consider a macro valuable is if they are still more efficient than a manual cast. And in this case, they generaly are because the manual placement often takes more time than the loss of GCD portion.

    Even for reviving, the macros are often disruptive. Since by the time you chatted your revive target, the abilities are often already queued anyway, and you are often still later than the other healer. The most reliable way around this is still just communicating (before the fight) with the other healer who is going to do the revives first, and which order they will use in case of multiple deaths (top first or bottom first). This avoids most overlap in casting.

    I usualy just use macros for crafting as they are a lot more timing reliable and can save a lot of clicking (things like a HQ quick synth, or for specific crafts that require a bit more abilities in between).
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  5. #25
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    AnnaUK's Avatar
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    Character
    Liara Dawn
    World
    Raiden
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 81
    My Bard macros - everything else is on it's own button:

    /macroicon "Heavy Shot"
    /macroerror off
    /actionerror off
    /ac "Bloodletter"
    /ac "Straight Shot"
    /ac "Heavy Shot"
    /ac barrage
    /ac "empyreal arrow"
    /ac "bloodletter"
    /ac sidewinder
    /ac "refulgent arrow"

    /macroicon "venomous bite"
    /macroerror off
    /actionerror off
    /ac "venomous bite" <wait.3>
    /ac "Windbite"

    /macroicon "Quick Nock"
    /macroerror off
    /actionerror off
    /ac "Rain of Death"
    /ac "empyreal arrow"
    /ac "Shadowbite"
    /ac "Quick Nock"
    /ac sidewinder

    Summoner - same again anything missing on it's own button

    /macroicon "Summon Ruby"
    /ac "Gemshine"
    /ac "Gemshine"
    /ac "Summon Ruby"
    /ac "Summon Topaz"
    /ac "Summon Emerald"

    /macroicon "Energy Drain"
    /ft
    /ac "energy drain"
    /ac "fester"

    /merror off
    /ac "Gemshine"
    /ac "Dreadwyrm Trance"
    /ac "Summon Garuda"
    /ac "Summon Ifrit"
    /ac "Summon Titan"
    /ac "Gemshine"
    /ac "Ruin"
    /ac "Astral Flow"
    /ac "Energy Drain"
    /ac "Aethercharge"
    /ac "Enkindle Bahamut"
    /ac "Fester"
    /ac "Lucid Dreaming"
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  6. #26
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaUK View Post
    My Bard macros - everything else is on it's own button:

    /macroicon "Heavy Shot"
    /macroerror off
    /actionerror off
    /ac "Bloodletter"
    /ac "Straight Shot"
    /ac "Heavy Shot"
    /ac barrage
    /ac "empyreal arrow"
    /ac "bloodletter"
    /ac sidewinder
    /ac "refulgent arrow"

    /macroicon "venomous bite"
    /macroerror off
    /actionerror off
    /ac "venomous bite" <wait.3>
    /ac "Windbite"

    /macroicon "Quick Nock"
    /macroerror off
    /actionerror off
    /ac "Rain of Death"
    /ac "empyreal arrow"
    /ac "Shadowbite"
    /ac "Quick Nock"
    /ac sidewinder

    Summoner - same again anything missing on it's own button

    /macroicon "Summon Ruby"
    /ac "Gemshine"
    /ac "Gemshine"
    /ac "Summon Ruby"
    /ac "Summon Topaz"
    /ac "Summon Emerald"

    /macroicon "Energy Drain"
    /ft
    /ac "energy drain"
    /ac "fester"

    /merror off
    /ac "Gemshine"
    /ac "Dreadwyrm Trance"
    /ac "Summon Garuda"
    /ac "Summon Ifrit"
    /ac "Summon Titan"
    /ac "Gemshine"
    /ac "Ruin"
    /ac "Astral Flow"
    /ac "Energy Drain"
    /ac "Aethercharge"
    /ac "Enkindle Bahamut"
    /ac "Fester"
    /ac "Lucid Dreaming"
    It is highly recommended to not do any of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  7. #27
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    AnnaUK's Avatar
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    Liara Dawn
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    Raiden
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 81
    Works fine for my needs. Guess this guy manages too!

    https://www.famitsu.com/news/202208/20272583.html
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  8. #28
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    Saraide Derosa
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaUK View Post
    Works fine for my needs. Guess this guy manages too!

    https://www.famitsu.com/news/202208/20272583.html
    "24 players can only play FATE and Mob Hunt, and 8 players can clear treasure chests and normal raids. I once challenged "Crystal Tower: Labyrinth of the Ancients" with 24 people, but it's still difficult..." (google translate)

    Yea works fine, totally, you're not sandbagging every group you're in. Surely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  9. #29
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    AnnaUK's Avatar
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    Character
    Liara Dawn
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    Raiden
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 81
    It's an option in the game. It's up to the individual how they play.
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  10. #30
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    dspguy's Avatar
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    Jain Farstrider
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Shirk macros are great for tanks, you can just have it set to /ac 'Shirk' <2>
    and it will always shirk the other tank

    other than that, macros are completely worthless in this game.
    They have their place - possibly for some oGCD stuff when you wouldn't be double weaving. And shirk is a great example. Another one might be the self-teleport abilities like BLM and NIN. Nascent Flash is another. I have one for party member #2 (either the healer in 4-man or other tank in 8-man) with another that lets me mouseover. Comes in handy when someone messes up some mechanic and I can heal them back up without the healer wasting any GCD.

    However, I don't think they have much use for anything that uses a GCD - outside of swift-cast raise. And that's mostly for the group-chat to let them know raise is being cast. Not because macro-ing the oGCD and GCD together makes any sense.
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