Why do people avoid getting better at the game?

[DixieBellOCE]

The answer is simple. There is no reason to get better at the game.

XIV offers such a casual experience that the player base has never had a reason to actually get better at game mechanics outside of those who wish to participate in Extreme/Savage/Ultimate content.

The player base get babysat through the entire game, even get difficulty DROPS in MSQ instances because.. it is too hard?

There is no reason to babysit people. People adapt and become better players by being challenged, even if it is only a small challenge.

There will always be that crowd that shouts for nerfs to content because they don't want to actually have to learn to play the game, Those players will complain about everything that makes them have to actually think while playing.

Content does not have to be 'Extreme/Savage' level of difficulty to be challenging. The final duty in 6.0 was a good example of this. It was not hard, but it DID challenge people and they learned from their mistakes and eventually cleared it.

What could change?
What incentives would be required to get people to try out new content?

Who knows, Discuss below.

[CaedemSanguis]

what's the problem with a lot of people not being good ?

[SeiyaSoiya]

what's the problem with a lot of people not being good ?

it creates a divide in the community between good players and bad players, giving good players a reason to be elitist, and therefore creating a toxic enviroment

[MintnHoney]

it creates a divide in the community between good players and bad players, giving good players a reason to be elitist, and therefore creating a toxic enviroment

Not to mention the possibility of the dev team needing to account for the lowest common denominator of player skill, and therefore needing to basically strip jobs of the mechanics and decision-making that some players desire in order to accommodate. But that's something of a subjective issue, these days.

[CaedemSanguis]

Not to mention the possibility of the dev team needing to account for the lowest common denominator of player skill, and therefore needing to basically strip jobs of the mechanics and decision-making that some players desire in order to accommodate. But that's something of a subjective issue, these days.

Casual content is made for casuals, and its therefore easy

Hardcore content is made for hardcore raiders, and its therefore very hard

???

[Shinkuno]

Casual content is made for casuals, and its therefore easy

Hardcore content is made for hardcore raiders, and its therefore very hard

???

Because no matter how challenging the content is, if the classes are designed for people that afk in limsa i wont have fun regardless

[MintnHoney]

Casual content is made for casuals, and its therefore easy

Hardcore content is made for hardcore raiders, and its therefore very hard

And yet there exists but one suite of abilities for players to use for each job, in both types of content you describe. Mastery of a game focused on accurate choreography not withstanding, that has left us with jobs losing bits and pieces of themselves over expansions, with the general take away being that it was done to make them more "accessible" rather than to tighten up the gameplay or necessarily make them more "fun."

Which was my point.

Note that this isn't me saying that the casual players, or even players that just aren't skilled in general, are at fault for this turn in job design. This is Squeen baggage, which has many different variables pushing the direction (with some not as agreeable as others).

[Shinkuno]

Not to mention the possibility of the dev team needing to account for the lowest common denominator of player skill, and therefore needing to basically strip jobs of the mechanics and decision-making that some players desire in order to accommodate. But that's something of a subjective issue, these days.

Those people would fail to hit 2 buttons in a 3 button job. I hate that we are probably at some point actually gonna be reduced to that

[CaedemSanguis]

it creates a divide in the community between good players and bad players, giving good players a reason to be elitist, and therefore creating a toxic enviroment

Toxicity is banishable, so ... no ?

Ive never seen elitism in dutyfinder/casual partyfinder

[Bad_Luck]

it creates a divide in the community between good players and bad players, giving good players a reason to be elitist, and therefore creating a toxic enviroment

How about not being toxic? Being toxic is a choice.