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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Would be a lot easier if people would stop playing games they suck at.
    Then people would never bother playing games.
    You're going to suck for a while before you learn enough to get good. If players are not allowed to ever be bad, they'd have to quit before they got the experience they need to get good.

    So I'll flip the reverse at you - it would be a lot easier if people who have bloated expectations regarding other players' skill would stop playing games intended as much for novice players as for veteran players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Then people would never bother playing games.
    You're going to suck for a while before you learn enough to get good. If players are not allowed to ever be bad, they'd have to quit before they got the experience they need to get good.

    So I'll flip the reverse at you - it would be a lot easier if people who have bloated expectations regarding other players' skill would stop playing games intended as much for novice players as for veteran players.
    Thats the thing. These people never get good, nor try to, and giving advice is asking to get told off or worse.

    I don't play shooters or rts games. Know why? I suck at them.
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  3. #283
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    This thread is a dumpster fire
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  4. #284
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    @Imora I think it would sound like better context to say you hate those genres of gaming rather than simply sucking at it. Usually if one likes a game enough, they will try harder to learn how to master it better. Said person will need time to learn how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    I don't play shooters or rts games. Know why? I suck at them.
    Different stroke for different folk I guess. I play a lot of game I'm not good at.

    Like ... I've been playing Cities:Skyline for like ... 10 years now? Yet everytime I watch a youtube video I still feel like a complete no0b. Building a functional but also pleasing looking city is still something I'm clueless to do, the struggle of doing it is still fun though

    I'm used to be really good at FPS though, was member of those "clan" thing that was in the rage back in the day. But stop playing them because I don't find the gerne fun any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Thats the thing. These people never get good, nor try to, and giving advice is asking to get told off or worse.

    I don't play shooters or rts games. Know why? I suck at them.
    I'm not good at fighting games or ones that require pulling off insane combos mid combat, but I still play DMC. I used to play Soul Calibur too, though I wasn't much good at that either. DMC evolved over time though, and I was very thankful to have an "easy mode" that performs all of these combos for me at random so I could focus on dodging more. Before that, it was a bit of a struggle, but I managed. Either way, plenty of people play games they aren't necessarily good at, but despite the struggles enjoy them all the same for one reason or another.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 03-21-2023 at 03:49 AM.

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    Most of those games don't involve detracting from others' experiences by being terrible.

    I don't want a crapper in my pf. My friend is collecting wow players for his FF static for next tier because he couldn't find one that wasn't full of enablers of bad play. At least in that game people aren't afraid to remove you if you can't fix your stuff while in a group.

    I don't do roulettes solo anymore because I'm tired of three or two manning boss fights because people die to simple mechanics and no, I don't get the new player message.

    If you can't take your hobby seriously enough to not be a detriment to the others in your group, get out.
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  8. #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Most of those games don't involve detracting from others' experiences by being terrible.

    I don't want a crapper in my pf. My friend is collecting wow players for his FF static for next tier because he couldn't find one that wasn't full of enablers of bad play. At least in that game people aren't afraid to remove you if you can't fix your stuff while in a group.

    I don't do roulettes solo anymore because I'm tired of three or two manning boss fights because people die to simple mechanics and no, I don't get the new player message.

    If you can't take your hobby seriously enough to not be a detriment to the others in your group, get out.
    It's a game. Contrary to your expectations, most of us don't take it that seriously.

    Someone who is not performing well may simply be new to the content and needs the chance to learn. That can't happen if no one will give them the opportunity.

    They may have a disability that prevents them from seeing clearly or reacting rapidly. I'm not going to crap on someone because they don't live up to some random standard.

    At least you're removing yourself from the general player pool to stick to your friends group. Now we don't have to worry about dealing with your bad attitude. Thank you for your contribution to improving our community.
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  9. #289
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Most of those games don't involve detracting from others' experiences by being terrible.

    I don't want a crapper in my pf. My friend is collecting wow players for his FF static for next tier because he couldn't find one that wasn't full of enablers of bad play. At least in that game people aren't afraid to remove you if you can't fix your stuff while in a group.

    I don't do roulettes solo anymore because I'm tired of three or two manning boss fights because people die to simple mechanics and no, I don't get the new player message.

    If you can't take your hobby seriously enough to not be a detriment to the others in your group, get out.

    May want to look at your own skill level before commenting on others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    May want to look at your own skill level before commenting on others.
    Watching it work it’s way up the totem pole always brings a smile to my face
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