We should be able to mute crafters

[Stormpeaks]

I know people make a lot of claims

So we are going down that road now where we're going to call people liars and that they're faking disabilities, alright then

[Kolaina]

So we are going down that road now where we're going to call people liars and that they're faking disabilities, alright then

I stand by what I said. There are many sound effects in game that have similar effects to hammering an anvil. But crafting was chosen in particular. Holy would have a similar effect. So… mute the game if it’s so bothersome. At least til they give you something, if ever

[MaxCarnage]

Tell me you dont know what tinnitus is without telling me you dont know what tinnitus is

Tinnitus is a constant ringing in your ears. It's always there, but not always deafening. Things can trigger the ringing to get worse. So it was perfectly reasonable for Kolaina to suggest Holy, which has a shrill ping as it goes off, to be triggering.

Tinnitus is not the exact same for everyone. Holy may not bother you, but it may bother other people with it.

[Stormpeaks]

Tinnitus is a constant ringing in your ears. It's always there, but not always deafening. Things can trigger the ringing to get worse. So it was perfectly reasonable for Kolaina to suggest Holy, which has a shrill ping as it goes off, to be triggering.

Tinnitus is not the exact same for everyone. Holy may not bother you, but it may bother other people with it.

I never said the opposite as far as I'm aware, however there are certain sounds that are a lot worse than others, blacksmithing crafting being one, and also that one with the rocks, hell I dont even know what job that is, amongst many others.

And yes, that is what tinnitus is, and yes, holy could potentially trigger it, but you dont see people at every single marketboard spamming holy, or hell even in the middle of Limsa.

I stand by what I said. There are many sound effects in game that have similar effects to hammering an anvil. But crafting was chosen in particular. Holy would have a similar effect. So… mute the game if it’s so bothersome. At least til they give you something, if ever

As I just said, some sounds are worse than others, yes holy is annoying as well, but to a much lesser extent as its not present at every marketboard.

[Kolaina]

I never said the opposite as far as I'm aware, however there are certain sounds that are a lot worse than others, blacksmithing crafting being one, and also that one with the rocks, hell I dont even know what job that is, amongst many others.

And yes, that is what tinnitus is, and yes, holy could potentially trigger it, but you dont see people at every single marketboard spamming holy, or hell even in the middle of Limsa.



As I just said, some sounds are worse than others, yes holy is annoying as well, but to a much lesser extent as its not present at every marketboard.

It was also suggested to find another market board. I know there’s an inconvenience there. However, it’s not everyone else’s responsibility to look after yours or anyone else’s disabilities. That’s why there have been suggestions currently available. Mute. Relocate.

It’s not like you’d have to stay muted your entire duration of play. Just while you’re “triggered”

[Stormpeaks]

It was also suggested to find another market board. I know there’s an inconvenience there. However, it’s not everyone else’s responsibility to look after yours or anyone else’s disabilities. That’s why there have been suggestions currently available. Mute. Relocate.

It’s not like you’d have to stay muted your entire duration of play. Just while you’re “triggered”

And once again, I will repeat what has been said a bazillion times in this thread, OP made a suggestion, they already know you can mute the game, and so do I, however thats a temporary solution and OP was suggesting a more permanent one.

I dont understand why its rocket science at this point, it's like talking to a wall

I also have never ever said that people should stop crafting at marketboards because of my tinnitus, so I'm not sure where that comes from, I never said it was their responsibility.

[MaxCarnage]

I never said the opposite as far as I'm aware, however there are certain sounds that are a lot worse than others, blacksmithing crafting being one, and also that one with the rocks, hell I dont even know what job that is, amongst many others.

And yes, that is what tinnitus is, and yes, holy could potentially trigger it, but you dont see people at every single marketboard spamming holy, or hell even in the middle of Limsa

That would be alchemist, and I agree that noise is grating. And I don't even have sensory issues or tinnitus. But holy shit is it annoying.

And while people may not be spamming holy in Limsa, whm tend to be most common in duties. So if you are someone who doesn't spend all your time in Limsa, would the option we have now to mute all sound effects not be the best option? Legitimately asking.

[Nizzi]

But they do have a current option they can utilize in the meantime.

You can pick out the “insensitivities”. But let’s not ignore the suggesting of a current and viable option.

They acknowledged that they can turn off noise and just asked for a way to have those specifically removed. Don't act like people were just "trying to be helpful" or present options when the first responses were "just move if you care so much" and "Seriously I'm amazed on players nonsensical requests. "
People weren't coming in to be helpful and suggest options, they were coming in to be dismissive and rude towards a request because "muh dev time touch grass" in the typical fashion.

But they should just mute the game. If hammering or sewing bothers them, then holy, limit breaks etc should as well. Notice the qualifying word “annoying”. I believe this is more a preferential request than a disability accessibility option

"If [x] is annoying, then [y] should be too!"
Uhhh, no lmao
Also spamming Holy in cities is a bannable offense, crafting noises aren't. You're trying to compare two things that have nothing to do with each other, especially when one is against the rules because it is so annoying and disruptive. What do you gain out of saying the OP can mute the game when the OP LITERALLY said they know they can? You aren't contributing anything to the thread.

[Stormpeaks]

That would be alchemist, and I agree that noise is grating. And I don't even have sensory issues or tinnitus. But holy shit is it annoying.

And while people may not be spamming holy in Limsa, whm tend to be most common in duties. So if you are someone who doesn't spend all your time in Limsa, would the option we have now to mute all sound effects not be the best option? Legitimately asking.

I mean you said it yourself, people have different triggers regarding tinnitus, personally Holy doesnt bother me, while crafting sounds are extremely irritating and create gigantic ringing.

That's why an option to mute only crafting sounds would be good, and well if people get triggered by both holy and the crafting sounds, they can mute both effectively removing both triggers at once yes. But an option would be better at least regarding the crafting ones. That's what me and OP have been asking for all thread long, instead of having to mute the entire game, a simple option to mute only the crafting ones.

They acknowledged that they can turn off noise and just asked for a way to have those specifically removed. Don't act like people were just "trying to be helpful" or present options when the first responses were "just move if you care so much" and "Seriously I'm amazed on players nonsensical requests. "
People weren't coming in to be helpful and suggest options, they were coming in to be dismissive and rude towards a request because "muh dev time touch grass" in the typical fashion.

This tbh, lets not pretend like people came in this thread with good intentions, all they did was repeating the same nonsense, telling OP to touch grass, snarky comments and insulting remarks and saying that their request didnt matter.

[Kolaina]

I also have never ever said that people should stop crafting at marketboards because of my tinnitus, so I'm not sure where that comes from, I never said it was their responsibility.

I didn’t say they should stop crafting at market boards. Also not everything pertains to you. It was brought up earlier in the thread about crafters at market boards. Did you skip that part? Sorry was a jab at you for saying that to someone else. Regardless, the op presents their case like the sounds are a current issue. So being responded to with a current solution is viable