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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by SapphireWeapon View Post
    That's just not true. Maybe that's true in the new Duty Supports, but it's not true with SHB Trusts.



    I'm not asking for it to be as fast as normal players. I'm not asking for a damage boost. I'm literally only asking for Trust AIs to function like Duty Support.

    I have been playing this game for years. I'm not averse to playing with other people lmao

    I know that a group of players can breeze through a dungeon in about 13-15 minutes. My average time with the new Duty Supports is 19-23 minutes. SHB Trusts are 28-33 minutes.

    I'm asking for the SHB Trusts to be on the same level as the new Duty Supports. That's it. That's all I'm asking for.
    ARR and HW dungeons are by themselves shorter than SHB dungeons therefore shb duty support also takes longer than ARR and HW duty support. You are asking for SE to do slight of hand. Them doing AoE or not is completely unrelated to how fast the run is. Like Rein said, their damage adjusts in an attempt to equalize run length.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Adrasteia Amarante
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    ARR and HW dungeons are by themselves shorter than SHB dungeons therefore shb duty support also takes longer than ARR and HW duty support. You are asking for SE to do slight of hand. Them doing AoE or not is completely unrelated to how fast the run is. Like Rein said, their damage adjusts in an attempt to equalize run length.
    That's not true. The later dungeons have three bosses in them, standard. Some ARR/HW dungeons had four. SHB/EW dungeons almost always have 2-3 groups per W2W pull. ARR/HW dungeons could have a hell of a lot more than that -- ARR especially.

    ARR/HW dungeons might seem shorter to you because a group of players leveled down can melt things at ridiculous speeds these days, but in terms of the actual content that you need to get through, ARR dungeons in particular were usually way longer than the expansions. So, there's really no excuse for SHB dungeons to take up to ten minutes longer than them if all of the AI characters are meant to be playing at average ilvl.

    I don't know why you're trying so hard to fight me on this. If there really was no difference between the performance of the Duty Support and the Trusts, then why would they have bothered to change the AI at all? Wouldn't the new Duty Supports just have lifted all of the framework from Trusts? Wouldn't that have been easier, faster, and more cost effective?

    But they didn't do that. They improved the AI so that the dungeons are handled more efficiently. I don't know why it's so unreasonable to you that I would ask for the systems to be standardized across all expansions. To me, it doesn't make sense that the later game content is actually worse than the early game content.
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