Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
I am in fact was describing the Shadowbringer/Endwalker's Trust NPCs. Even if they do AoE a wall pull; if you are also AoE'ing together with them, their AoEs will be doing pitiful damage to ensure you will always finish in that 28m-33m duration you've noted yourself.

I don't know enough about Duty Supports on ARR/HW dungeons though, as I could only count on one hand the amount of time I actually used them. I would assume they're using similar formulae.
You can't be talking about SHB Trusts, or your memory is off, because SHB Trusts literally do not perform AOE attacks during trash pulls. Stop trying to tell me they do.

I am actively trying to get an alt to 90 on all jobs. I have spent over a dozen hours in Trusts just in the past week alone because I didn't want to deal with DPS queues. SHB Trust NPCs do not perform AOE attacks. Ever. That's the point of the thread.

Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
Trusts are there for when you really want to experience the dungeon and its story without any disturbances from other players. Theyre not designed to be an efficient way to run this content otherwise it would severely undervalue the need for players if the AI can perform much better than them
Absolutely no one is asking for Trusts to perform as well as players, let alone better than them. I don't know how people are getting that from my original post. I just want them to do AOE attacks so that the original SHB Trusts are functioning at the same level as the newly added ARR/HW Duty Supports. That's it. I'm not asking for anything else.

Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
Leveling a SCH alt through ARR, I have literally watched their damage numbers shrink if I am an active participant, but after a couple moments of afking their dps will flare back up. And this is in addition to their aoes. Like if I am active participant, ohno, they can only do 7 or 9 damage. But if I afk oh now they are doing like 79 damage.
The amount of people in this thread who don't understand that Duty Support and Trusts are not the same thing is absolutely staggering to me.