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    hunkygladiator's Avatar
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    AT THIS POINT in World of Warcraft

    Its crazy how if you look at the patch number for ffxiv at any given time, the problem the community has with the game is the same as the problems wows community had with the game when it had a similar patch number.

    Like my biggest complaints with ffxiv are: class homogonizing, and what op said. And were at like 6.2 or 6.3

    What was wows 6.2 / 6.3? Warlords of draenor. The expansion with great leveling, non existent solo only endgame outside raids, and classes so pruned you'd swear it was butchery. They even have garrisons
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    I mean, i dunno why people feel the need to compare WoW and FFXIV, outside of tab target combat, they both do their own thing. However I WILL say, as someone who cycles between both, Dragonflight is considerably more enjoyable than Endwalker has been so far.
    I do also agree that Endwalker, content wise, feels a bit like WoD. Fairly barren. People will likely say they have loads to do, and that's fair, I'd assume they've not been playing since ARR like myself, and have kept up with FFXIV's patches since.
    At the end of the day though, this is the nature of MMO's, they're always changing. They have their highs, and their lows. It just so happens FFXIV is in a low point right now and WoW is in a high point. Look at the Shadowlands/Shadowbringers era to see the opposite end of this. I've no doubt it'll flip again in the future.
    Also the same relic step 2 times in a row is downright lazy design though, they didn't even try to do anything different.

    also after writing this, I now understand why people compare the two lmao
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    Why do people keep saying we lack content? We have the same content we have always had. Allaince Raid, Raid, Trials, Dungeons, Random Alt EXP content (deep dungeon/bozja) Random thing to do (islands) This is how FF has always been. Why is everyone pretending like it isn't lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genbe197 View Post
    Why do people keep saying we lack content? We have the same content we have always had. Allaince Raid, Raid, Trials, Dungeons, Random Alt EXP content (deep dungeon/bozja) Random thing to do (islands) This is how FF has always been. Why is everyone pretending like it isn't lol
    Let me rephrase that.

    We have the same 'watered down' version of content we have always had.

    Many of the repayable aspects of previous expansions were replaced with One and Done content like Islands and Variants. There goes the combat content that kept people engaged during downtime, relic grind has been replaced with 'get 1500 tomes from doing exactly what you have been doing for the last 6 months of downtime'.

    Endwalker is by far, my least favourite expansion in terms of content, and that says a lot considering Stormblood exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asphhar View Post
    I mean, i dunno why people feel the need to compare WoW and FFXIV, outside of tab target combat, they both do their own thing. However I WILL say, as someone who cycles between both, Dragonflight is considerably more enjoyable than Endwalker has been so far.
    I do also agree that Endwalker, content wise, feels a bit like WoD. Fairly barren. People will likely say they have loads to do, and that's fair, I'd assume they've not been playing since ARR like myself, and have kept up with FFXIV's patches since.
    At the end of the day though, this is the nature of MMO's, they're always changing. They have their highs, and their lows. It just so happens FFXIV is in a low point right now and WoW is in a high point. Look at the Shadowlands/Shadowbringers era to see the opposite end of this. I've no doubt it'll flip again in the future.
    Also the same relic step 2 times in a row is downright lazy design though, they didn't even try to do anything different.

    also after writing this, I now understand why people compare the two lmao
    We should also commend how frequent and in depth a lot of blizz updates to the community has been since df released is something amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    We should also commend how frequent and in depth a lot of blizz updates to the community has been since df released is something amazing.
    Absolutely. They've been doing great lately!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    Because YoshiP secretly hates MiQote
    :^) you wrote Hrothgar wrong. Understandable mistake, it's the bigger, better cat~

    /j
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    :^) you wrote Hrothgar wrong. Understandable mistake, it's the bigger, better cat~
    I know you were joking, but you're not wrong at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    We should also commend how frequent and in depth a lot of blizz updates to the community has been since df released is something amazing.
    They HAVE to since they can't afford to have 3 bad expansions in a row, it would've been the final nail in the coffin. Personally, I've been burnt with giving WoW a chance time and again so I won't even consider playing Dragonflight until maybe the last patch, if at all.

    PS: yall realize this wasn't a "WoW good XIV bad" and more "6.2-3 is a cursed number" right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    If wow is so good why dont you go back there and leave us alone?
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