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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Let’s address this illogical comment. Final fantasy 14 didn’t always exist. The money to develop this game came from somewhere. That somewhere would be other square enix titles.

    So in turn the profits from this game, as with all other square games, whether it’s final fantasy, tomb raider, a marvel game, whatever, go into developing other games.

    You’d think this reasoning would be obvious
    Alright, I'm not gonna defend OP or anything. 'Cause.. It's a complicated subject.

    But it's also weird to say "Yeah, well FFX paid for FFXI" - No, it allowed the funds to start the project and finish it by a corporation paying it's employees. But ultimately it still needs to pay for itself after sales are completed. FFXIV is also a product that has a sales goal to pay for itself. This also includes the fact that we have a cash shop.

    The concern is how the excessive funds are shared and used. Engaging customers may feel entitled to more content given the current funds to the current product.

    So if FFXVI pays for itself and takes the excess funds away from FFXIV, it may feel unfair to those customers. Or the idea that SE pockets it for just.. Bullshit corporate reasons.

    But I think people also have a right to be suspicious and concerned about where the funds go. Mostly because strange SE decisions that we know have been pretty sour. Can't take the SE out of FFXIV unfortunately.

    It's also not a matter of funding, it's a matter of dev availability. How can we 100% for certain trust that XIV hasn't been impacted in some form when they pulled devs.

    Who knows, maybe FFXVI and FFXIV 7.0 will regain some of that trust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Alright, I'm not gonna defend OP or anything. 'Cause.. It's a complicated subject.

    But it's also weird to say "Yeah, well FFX paid for FFXI" - No, it allowed the funds to start the project and finish it by a corporation paying it's employees. But ultimately it still needs to pay for itself after sales are completed. FFXIV is also a product that has a sales goal to pay for itself. This also includes the fact that we have a cash shop.

    The concern is how the excessive funds are shared and used. Engaging customers may feel entitled to more content given the current funds to the current product.

    So if FFXVI pays for itself and takes the excess funds away from FFXIV, it may feel unfair to those customers. Or the idea that SE pockets it for just.. Bullshit corporate reasons.

    But I think people also have a right to be suspicious and concerned about where the funds go. Mostly because strange SE decisions that we know have been pretty sour. Can't take the SE out of FFXIV unfortunately.

    It's also not a matter of funding, it's a matter of dev availability. How can we 100% for certain trust that XIV hasn't been impacted in some form when they pulled devs.

    Who knows, maybe FFXVI and FFXIV 7.0 will regain some of that trust.
    Im going to be honest, at first the other day I thought you were just passionately trolling people or refusing to see sides but the last day or so your responses have changed my view on you and I apologize if I got arsey at any point with yourself. It is clear we both want better for the game and are passionate about it in our own ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Selsix View Post
    The problem with this incredibly lukewarm take is that companies are supposed to have multiple teams working on multiple projects. Not one team working on multiple projects. Moving some of the XIV staff to XVI is honestly insanity to me when XIV is a constantly updating game in need of a 24/7 dedicated team. Putting people like Yoshi, Soken, Koji, Natsuko, and God knows who else on XVI as well is baffling when it's clear XIV would and is suffering because of it.
    The thing is if you read my above post...content has changed in the slightest really since it was in production so long ago...Koji, Soken and Yoshi have barely an impact on 16/14 in the grand scheme of things if you take how many different teams/departments they are. WoW has a much much bigger team than what 14 has and barely makes as much content. I would say CBU3 is borderline family at this point haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CStrife912 View Post
    Im going to be honest, at first the other day I thought you were just passionately trolling people or refusing to see sides but the last day or so your responses have changed my view on you and I apologize if I got arsey at any point with yourself. It is clear we both want better for the game and are passionate about it in our own ways.
    I appreciate it. I don't consider myself a troll by any means, but I do allow myself the flexibility to have braindead takes at times. lol
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