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    hunkygladiator's Avatar
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    FF16 stealing even more dev time from FF14

    Endwalker now has even less content than Shadowbringers. All money and resources are being pumped into FF16 and FF14 is in managed decline. We paid for FF14 not FF16.
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    FFXVI launch will be a double edged sword for Yoshi P... If it does well we may lose him to more future projects, if it does poorly may lose him altogether (Japanese dont take failures all that well, but he seem modern enough to jump back into things.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    Endwalker now has even less content than Shadowbringers.
    not it doesn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    not it doesn't
    This is right. The content IS there, it's just distributed in a different way.

    The content that in ShB made up the Bozja/Zadnor zones, the relic grind and the large scale duties, is instead spent on Island Sanctuary, Variant/Criterion dungeons, and the new Deep Dungeon.
    The design is less efficient, less impactful, but from an outside PoV it seems to have taken more or less the same resources. So it's not about dev time, its about design choices.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 03-13-2023 at 09:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    This is right. The content IS there, it's just distributed in a different way.

    The content that in ShB made up the Bozja/Zadnor zones, the relic grind and the large scale duties, is instead spent on Island Sanctuary, Variant/Criterion dungeons, and the new Deep Dungeon.
    The design is less efficient, less impactful, but from an outside PoV it seems to have taken more or less the same resources. So it's not about dev time, its about design choices.
    Spot on. Keep in mind we just got a Deep Dungeon whereas ShB didn't get one. There are lots of things that "skip expansions."
    ARR: PotD
    HW: none
    SB: HoH
    ShB: none
    EW: Orthos

    That's just one example. There are probably others. EW doesn't appear to be getting a Eureka/Bozja zone, but it doesn't mean we haven't gotten content. Personally, I think a lot of this mindset is simply one's perception or better yet... a predisposition to look for the negative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Spot on. Keep in mind we just got a Deep Dungeon whereas ShB didn't get one. There are lots of things that "skip expansions."
    ARR: PotD
    HW: none
    SB: HoH
    ShB: none
    EW: Orthos

    That's just one example. There are probably others. EW doesn't appear to be getting a Eureka/Bozja zone, but it doesn't mean we haven't gotten content. Personally, I think a lot of this mindset is simply one's perception or better yet... a predisposition to look for the negative.
    Palace of the Dead came out in 3.35, so HW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    Spot on. Keep in mind we just got a Deep Dungeon whereas ShB didn't get one. There are lots of things that "skip expansions."
    ARR: PotD
    HW: none
    SB: HoH
    ShB: none
    EW: Orthos

    That's just one example. There are probably others. EW doesn't appear to be getting a Eureka/Bozja zone, but it doesn't mean we haven't gotten content. Personally, I think a lot of this mindset is simply one's perception or better yet... a predisposition to look for the negative.
    Meanwhile SB had HoH, Eureka, Hildibrand quests, full relic, more dungeons, and so on. Then it started going downhill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Meanwhile SB had HoH, Eureka, Hildibrand quests, full relic, more dungeons, and so on. Then it started going downhill
    SB also had horrible job balance, a lackluster story, and half of the zones were completely forgettable. Something is always sacrificed for something else to prosper.
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    I think a comparison between ShB and EW contents is in order around patch 6.55 to see if it's true that EW has less content or not.
    Although a comparison between 6.35 and 5.35 could work perfectly too.
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    The gaslighting is so strong with this thread its ridiculous
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