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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsutaMan View Post
    XI Players:


    But yeah, 16 does not even look that good. Just as XI was the most profitable game in the series, SE feels the need to empty the clip in the next big mainline series.
    (Even at the expense of their past titles...SE needs a hit)
    Not sure what you're on, but FFXVI looks amazing. Already pre-ordered the Deluxe Edition and cannot wait to play it.
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    one thing that people seem to forget is that development started back at 2016. during 3.5 of Heavensward. If it were true that resources to FFXVI development is what caused the current patch cycle to be so "lackluster" then we should've seen this happen 7 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    one thing that people seem to forget is that development started back at 2016. during 3.5 of Heavensward. If it were true that resources to FFXVI development is what caused the current patch cycle to be so "lackluster" then we should've seen this happen 7 years ago.
    Funny thing is, every expansion people have complained about the Quality of Content, Doom and Gloom, etc.
    Just to turn around Next expansion and Suddenly say it was good.
    Hard to take most people on the Forums Seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Funny thing is, every expansion people have complained about the Quality of Content, Doom and Gloom, etc.
    Just to turn around Next expansion and Suddenly say it was good.
    Hard to take most people on the Forums Seriously.
    It's really annoying at this point. I understand people are frustrated with things not living up to their expectations, but being Doomers over the slightest thing will not win anybody over to their cause. Hell, it'll likely get people to start associating the person with their ridiculous Dooming and start considering them a troll or not worth taking seriously. It already happened with at least one poster recently (with one apologizing to them for believing that about them), and it won't be the last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    one thing that people seem to forget is that development started back at 2016. during 3.5 of Heavensward. If it were true that resources to FFXVI development is what caused the current patch cycle to be so "lackluster" then we should've seen this happen 7 years ago.
    What you seem to be forgetting is that FF15 came out after 10 years of work or so?

    In the process of developing FF16 there's been a pandemic, and many other problems. FF16's concept work started back in 2015. This is only going to be year 8 of their work on it, and they're already trying to release it this June.

    So yes, I can see why this could be hurting FF14. They're trying to rush a major title. I wonder, I wonder, where could they have gotten the resources to rush it from, especially considering the previous major title took 10 years of development?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    What you seem to be forgetting is that FF15 came out after 10 years of work or so?

    In the process of developing FF16 there's been a pandemic, and many other problems. FF16's concept work started back in 2015. This is only going to be year 8 of their work on it, and they're already trying to release it this June.

    So yes, I can see why this could be hurting FF14. They're trying to rush a major title. I wonder, I wonder, where could they have gotten the resources to rush it from, especially considering the previous major title took 10 years of development?
    I think the point is that a lot of people look at FF16 and say "this is the cause of the current content issues in FF14", but with how close to release it is, and how long it's been developed for, it is far more likely that if it did have an impact, then it would have been around Stormblood/Shadowbringers era. Not current Endwalker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    I think the point is that a lot of people look at FF16 and say "this is the cause of the current content issues in FF14", but with how close to release it is, and how long it's been developed for, it is far more likely that if it did have an impact, then it would have been around Stormblood/Shadowbringers era. Not current Endwalker.
    Oh my lord a voice of understanding....you wouldn't have the issues arise now during a polishing/debugging period...this is where people will like come off the project back to FF14 XD Also for that individual FFXV took 10 years because Nomura handled dev for some long changing his mind and then S-E shifting him to do other projects...15 is just a bunch of mishandling in general. FF7 remake as well took 5 years to release part 1 but once again that was because 2 years in they basically scrapped and started over again because of the outside help of Cyber connect 2 wasn't hitting their quality standards. FF16 would of caused the most issue during SB and ShB like you said yet people think when its months away now is the problem....the team is also making another expansion which is roughly a year away from now too on top of other things...but by all means people blame FF16 for now...not the years ago it should of mattered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iyrnthota View Post
    I think the point is that a lot of people look at FF16 and say "this is the cause of the current content issues in FF14", but with how close to release it is, and how long it's been developed for, it is far more likely that if it did have an impact, then it would have been around Stormblood/Shadowbringers era. Not current Endwalker.
    Counterpoint. EW itself was in development years prior to release. A lot of people felt that EW was underwhelming compared to ShB, and EW was being developed during the peak development time of FF16, right?

    Even the patches themselves could have been planned out to be this way far ahead of their release dates due to them trying to leave wiggle room for any issues with FF16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Counterpoint. EW itself was in development years prior to release. A lot of people felt that EW was underwhelming compared to ShB, and EW was being developed during the peak development time of FF16, right?

    Even the patches themselves could have been planned out to be this way far ahead of their release dates due to them trying to leave wiggle room for any issues with FF16.
    Check the FF16 twitter where they said in 2021 that covid basically delayed them 6 months due to them waiting on outside asset delivery from contractors...or those deliveries were canceled due to countries handling work and covid differently. If that was the case 16 would of been out by now, they had delays with 14 and covid hence 5.3 was pushed back. I think you are going in with the definitely happened mindset whereas I am not disagreeing something may have happened but there is way more facts that contradict that viewpoint.
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