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    Easy Content Idea

    You know what would keep people busy and would be minimal effort and kind of cool. Design a few sick outfits for each expac - ARR, HW, SB and SHB that you can unlock by beating all the new game plus entries for each expansion.

    These could be unlocked in the Tataru's Boutique shop thing in Sharlayan or just through an achievement.

    You barely have to think anything since it's all there, if it's through Tataru's shop then maybe a few quests about going down memory lane and how recounting the story inspires tataru to design a new outfit and it's not AS monotonous as repeating the same fates over and over plus it adds an incentive to repeat what arguably is the highest quality content in the game, the MSQ.

    When 7.0 rolls around, you add one for EW. This would be similar to how the wandering minstrel is inspired to give you new fights after you recount your stories to him.
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    'Keep people busy' - as someone with multiple Alts, I can tell you that MSQ barely takes any time if you skip all cutscenes. Since you can just unsync all the duties and have flying, that's wouldn't really take much time.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    'Keep people busy' - as someone with multiple Alts, I can tell you that MSQ barely takes any time if you skip all cutscenes. Since you can just unsync all the duties and have flying, that's wouldn't really take much time.
    So be it if you want to speed run it. I'm betting you would go for the outfits right? There you go. It's not a bad incentive to use NG+ and for a lot of us we would take our time and remember details we may have missed the first run.
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    I think they should provide better rewards for achievement tokens, like actual rewards. Not the hand-me-down rewards that were formerly known as veteran rewards.

    If they did -- they would actually encourage people to do more with the game, and partake in more areas of the game, similarly, if they were to implement more creative achievements. People need to be encouraged to interact more with the game, frankly, and the game itself doesn't do that, through reward structures or otherwise. This is the biggest problem.

    The game doesn't need more content, it just needs more incentive to replay content, or engage in it meaningfully. All these ideas, whilst nice are ultimately short in the grand scheme of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    People need to be encouraged to interact more with the game, frankly, and the game itself doesn't do that, through reward structures or otherwise. This is the biggest problem.

    ...

    All these ideas, whilst nice are ultimately short in the grand scheme of things.
    Forgive me but, this is exactly what's being proposed here. A way to interact with the game and use its existing systems to its advantage, it's a similar approach to Elden ring as well sans the difficulty hike because people wouldn't tolerate it around here.

    I don't believe these ideas to be short in the grand scheme of things if they keep coming, because it's going to take an agglomeration of these to change the grand scheme of things. So when you add up all these little ideas people suggest here and there, you get a grand change.

    I do support your idea to better utilize the achievement currency as well. There should be enough to keep people going for more achievements.
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    Bro literally just do a new moogle tomestone event every month. Cycle the content for it so it doesn't get stale, shuffle the rewards around, and call it a day. This isn't hard. This is one of the few events they have that encourages people to actually play the game, but they only do it like ... what, twice a year? Meanwhile the game's in sleeper mode 4 months at a time. You're charging people monthly, right? Not every 4 months, right? So just do a moogle event or some kind of "hey come do content for rewards" style event and give people something to do. Or, don't! And watch people quit in droves and then their friends quit because they quit, and their friends quit because they quit, and on and on. Legit no need to reinvent the wheel. Hell, what if they just... uncapped causality tomes and let people actually farm for their alt jobs in a meaningful way? "Oh we don't want to encourage unhealthy grinding" says the dev who had people poopsocking at placards for 16 hours, yeah okay. Imagine if they just took the lazy way out like so many kMMO devs and just did a double drop event or something. Always wanted a glam but never could find it? Now it drops double the glams! Double the tomes! Go get out there and run some content!

    Oh, wait. No. Our "events" are an 11 minute story about a guy who... uhm... wants to celebrate a holiday! With an event! And he needs YOU ... to, uhm... talk to NPCs! And convince them to come! There's an emote! And a housing item! You'll like it.
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    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Jfc why did I even post on a bait thread, this place sucks. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Bro literally just do a new moogle tomestone event every month. Cycle the content for it so it doesn't get stale, shuffle the rewards around, and call it a day. This isn't hard. This is one of the few events they have that encourages people to actually play the game, but they only do it like ... what, twice a year? Meanwhile the game's in sleeper mode 4 months at a time. You're charging people monthly, right? Not every 4 months, right? So just do a moogle event or some kind of "hey come do content for rewards" style event and give people something to do. Or, don't! And watch people quit in droves and then their friends quit because they quit, and their friends quit because they quit, and on and on. Legit no need to reinvent the wheel. Hell, what if they just... uncapped causality tomes and let people actually farm for their alt jobs in a meaningful way? "Oh we don't want to encourage unhealthy grinding" says the dev who had people poopsocking at placards for 16 hours, yeah okay. Imagine if they just took the lazy way out like so many kMMO devs and just did a double drop event or something. Always wanted a glam but never could find it? Now it drops double the glams! Double the tomes! Go get out there and run some content!

    Oh, wait. No. Our "events" are an 11 minute story about a guy who... uhm... wants to celebrate a holiday! With an event! And he needs YOU ... to, uhm... talk to NPCs! And convince them to come! There's an emote! And a housing item! You'll like it.
    Yeah. Sure, I mean why not. Instead of devs spending time and resources thinking into how they can restrict and cap our loot they should instead just double down on giving us an innumerable amount of things to do. People will organize and do them by themselves and at their pace so I don't see the point in trying to curate and trickle the content for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    You know what would keep people busy
    Why should they try to keep people busy? FF14 isn't intended or designed to be the only game played by its players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Why should they try to keep people busy? FF14 isn't intended or designed to be the only game played by its players.
    Oh FFXIV is a live service and usually video games are entertainment products people buy to pass time. As for FF14s design all I can tell you is a lot of the user base seems unhappy with the amount of content in between patches and so suggestions are being made in the official forums.

    The forums is like a location the developers of FFXIV designated for feedback in case users wants to raise comments, suggestions, or issues they have with the game. Let us know if you have any questions!
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    Weren't you just in another thread complaining about people wanting re-run events? This is basically the exact same thing.
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