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    Yoshi-P lied

    I don't like saying this, I don't like even thinking this. I've been playing this game (with breaks) since 2.0 open beta and have always respected the man but I can no longer take him at his word. Yoshi claimed XVI development would not affect XIV in any way and it's very clear this was a lie or at the very least a false prediction on his part. The development for that game ramped up HARD after 6.0 dropped and every patch in the 6.X cycle has been completely devoid of lasting meaningful content. To make matters worse the patches now even take longer to make, being 4 months apart instead of 3 with the occasional delay. I don't mind the increased time between patches, but I do mind the small patches with barely anything to do.

    Let's look at what's been added in the 6.X cycle:
    -Ultimates only cater to an extreme minority of the population (something like sub-1% of players and we are all aware how much cheating is used in that subset anyway)
    -Crystalline Conflict was a cool attempt to revive PvP, but their refusal to add a casual mode or ranked mode where you can queue with friends has already resulted in this being dead too.
    -Criterion dungeons were a massive lazy flop with garbage rewards.
    -They've done nothing with BLU nor added other limited jobs.
    -The relics have been the laziest they've ever done. Whether you enjoy this step or not I'm sure you can agree on that. You can finish each step in a single day for MULTIPLE jobs and all you do is roulettes, nothing new.
    -The new deep dungeon while appreciated isn't anything special. HoH changed the formula from PotD up a bit but EO is just a carbon copy of the two more or less. There's some new pomanders and new random enemies, that's it. No surprises. HoH added massive stadium rooms full of enemies and the special summon pomanders at least, what did EO add? Nothing.
    -Island Sanctuary while cute has been really shallow in what it actually delivers in terms of content. It's just a lazy boring daily grind when you boil it down.
    -The MSQ bits have all been incredibly short, padded by forcing the patch cycle trials into the MSQ when they were side quests in every other expansion after ARR.

    It used to be it'd take me at least a solid day or two to finish all the content offered by a patch (including story) at minimum, potentially weeks if there was relic content added. But for 6.X? I'm usually finished with the entire patch in 1-4 hours and then I'm bored again and end up quitting until the next one. I know Yoshi has also said to take breaks and play other games and I do this VERY liberally, but it really isn't fun to come back to the game for a content patch expecting to have fun and I'm done with all I care to do after just a handful of hours.
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    Yeah, I take everything that is said with a grain of salt. Always. I think it was obvious from the get-go that FF 16's development would have an effect on FF XIV in some capacity. This happens every single time SE has a major project in the works. FF 16 is probably an "all hands on decK" situation as well considering SE has had failure after failure recently. They probably know that FF 16 has to be good, otherwise the company will be in quite a pickle. They also know that FF XIV has an almost zealous fan base, so they probably aren't too worried about players unsubbing for now. So yeah, I saw this coming a mile away, and I hope it was worth the wait and the cost.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 03-12-2023 at 03:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Yeah, I take everything that is said with a grain of salt. Always. I think it was obvious from the get-go that FF 16's development would have an effect on FF XIV in some capacity. This happens every single time SE has a major project in the works. FF 16 is probably an "all hands on decK" situation as well considering SE has had failure after failure recently. They probably know that FF 16 has to be good, otherwise the company will be in quite a pickle. They also know that FF XIV has an almost zealous fan base, so they probably aren't too worried about players unsubbing for now. So yeah, I saw this coming a mile away, and I hope it was worth the wait and the cost.
    We'll see when 7.x comes out whether it's actually because of FF16
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    The hood plays FFXVI now
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    There is this new achievement for discovering 20.000 pieces of Accursed Hoard in the deep dungeons, maybe try that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    There is this new achievement for discovering 20.000 pieces of Accursed Hoard in the deep dungeons, maybe try that
    All the garbage Achievements we know I'll never do as 'content'. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    All the garbage Achievements we know I'll never do as 'content'. lol

    Let's face it. Basically no one will be actively trying for this stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Let's face it. Basically no one will be actively trying for this stuff.
    I wouldn't say that. If hardly anyone bothers to try and get the title <The Accursed>, then that person has a title more rare than <The Necromancer> title. Rarer than even <The Alpha Legend> title from TOP ultimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    I wouldn't say that. If hardly anyone bothers to try and get the title <The Accursed>, then that person has a title more rare than <The Necromancer> title. Rarer than even <The Alpha Legend> title from TOP ultimate.
    Oh, there will always be a few who will. But the vast majority won't be actively seeking these things out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    I do hope they update BLU at some point, last time was 5.4, so maybe patch 6.4?

    They really should just unlock it's max level and let it reach 90 like every other class... But keep the duty finder restrictions and maybe disable loot with BLUs in the party to stop people from cheesing Savages with them.


    The Relic might not be the most engaging, but at least it's slightly better than Eureka and Bozja in that you will be guaranteed to be able to do it even after 7.0.


    Crystalline Conflict could be better, my biggest problem with it is the matches sometimes drag on quite a long while, you have 5 minutes of regular match time and then you can get as much Overtime as you want as long as people can stay on the Crystal. While you can have some absolutely crazy comebacks, I think maybe they should limit or just straight up remove the overtime from the casual matches.


    And for the giant sparkly elephant in the room, FF XVI, I would imagine Yoshi-P didn't want it to effect XIV and was planning on it not doing so, but due to recent releases from Square Enix I would imagine they're pushing hard to make sure that the game gets out on time and in it's entirety, none of that "We'll add the rest in DLC" shenaniganery of XV, so more and more staff and resources are being pushed towards XVI than before.
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