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  1. #21
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    And there are plenty that consider this step very lazy. Though there has to be a ton of people who enjoy it ande as a company you would want to rake in the most profit with the least amount of work. If there are plenty of people ready to throw money at a brand then it would be silly for a company not to prioritize them over the "vocal minority". Sure, it can erode what made the game fun to many who joined when the game came out but you know what they say: out with the old, in with the new! Foresight is just a liability!~
    My point isn't necessarily that I like things how they are. I'm not defending it.

    I'm just pointing out that we likely have no accurate idea what percentage of the playerbase enjoys it, dislikes it or doesn't care, and we really shouldn't pretend otherwise either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    My point isn't necessarily that I like things how they are. I'm not defending it.

    I'm just pointing out that we likely have no accurate idea what percentage of the playerbase enjoys it, dislikes it or doesn't care, and we really shouldn't pretend otherwise either.
    Personally, I don't care either way. It's SE's golden goose so they can do whatever they want. I would rather them have a clear direction they are going with the game over listening to the playerbase's opinions. Though considering it's SE, I'm waiting with bated breath to see if they have such a big brained idea it would chase me away. I'm betting on either NFT shenanigans or ring 0 rootkit troubles. Any takers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    It must be absolutely fantastic to have so few problems going on in their day to day lives, that this is what causes them grief.
    You gotta stop parroting one certain bald man, especially because unlike him, you have over 5000 posts on this forum XD. Providing genuine complaints =/= being petty (which btw, said bald man also makes good genuine complaints too...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
    You gotta stop parroting one certain bald man, especially because unlike him, you have over 5000 posts on this forum XD. Providing genuine complaints =/= being petty (which btw, said bald man also makes good genuine complaints too...).
    No no no, if you complain then you are being very petty. Though looking back at history... there was a ton of petty people out there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    No no no, if you complain then you are being very petty. Though looking back at history... there was a ton of petty people out there!
    No, but it is quite petty to make pointless, and needless remarks such as finger-pointing particular groups of players, e.g., casuals, 'lazy' payers, players wanting everything handed on a plate, 'Limsa AFK folk'.

    So yes, people are still petty. Lodging a complaint or criticism towards a piece of content is one thing, attacking or ascribing certain behaviours, agreements, or lack thereof to particular people is something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    No, but it is quite petty to make pointless, and needless remarks such as finger-pointing particular groups of players, e.g., casuals, 'lazy' payers, players wanting everything handed on a plate, 'Limsa AFK folk'.

    So yes, people are still petty. Lodging a complaint or criticism towards a piece of content is one thing, attacking or ascribing certain behaviours, agreements, or lack thereof to particular people is something else.
    One person's pettiness is another person's critical assessment. The limsa stereotype didn't suddenly pop up one day, it happened for a reason. It's up to you to either defend the status quo and keep that appearance up or see why it's a stereotype and go from there. Though don't feel bad, that stereotype is slowly migrating towards venues, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    so you say yoshi is actively lying to the player base?
    What was your first clue? The fact that he said XVI development wouldn't affect XIV and conveniently every 6.X patch has been barren was a gigantic neon sign for me.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    One person's pettiness is another person's critical assessment. The limsa stereotype didn't suddenly pop up one day, it happened for a reason. It's up to you to either defend the status quo and keep that appearance up or see why it's a stereotype and go from there. Though don't feel bad, that stereotype is slowly migrating towards venues, lol.
    I would hardly call this a critical assessment when there are just as many people who are proactive with the game that 'AFK at Limsa' as people so eloquently like to put it. e.g., participating in hunt trains or otherwise. At best it is one person being under a 'hunch' because they cannot handle the simple fact that there are those that prefer this method for varying reasons. There is no 'critical assessment' behind it, just people being petty and equally borderline antagonistic. Again, it's just the simple fact of trying to ascribe certain traits to particular people based on another person's inability to accept the simple fact that someone disagreed with their outlook, and for a genuine reason.

    No amount of salad dressing you use will change that fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I don't really know how many people you're interacting with, but there are people on reddit and in different FF14 discords that genuinely like it.
    the yoshi worshipers don't like or hate any thing. what yoshi do is the gods work and they expecting it.
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    No, raiders need to have an advantage in gear
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