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    that would be even worse. why is everyone obsessed with lazy tomes? you want to do the same roulettes and hunt trains u have done for a year? if you want tome weapons they already exist?

    stormblood added 4 new zones with unique mechs and a huge raid at the end. shb added bozja with multiple zones and raids and even a savage version. now we get hildebrand questline (not funny) and a vendor? lazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by seolhyun View Post
    stormblood added 4 new zones with unique mechs and a huge raid at the end. shb added bozja with multiple zones and raids and even a savage version. now we get hildebrand questline (not funny) and a vendor? lazy
    Cause they listened to feedback from the community and decided to do other types of content that didn't exist in the other expansions instead of continuing the streak of Eureka type zones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Cause they listened to feedback from the community and decided to do other types of content that didn't exist in the other expansions instead of continuing the streak of Eureka type zones
    Yeah cause tome farming in the crystal tower roulette is definitely new and unique content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Cause they listened to feedback from the community and decided to do other types of content that didn't exist in the other expansions instead of continuing the streak of Eureka type zones
    and what they got to show for it?
    a island that you cant do anything in and a really well made new type of dungeon they forget to give any good rewards to?
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    No, raiders need to have an advantage in gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Cause they listened to feedback from the community and decided to do other types of content that didn't exist in the other expansions instead of continuing the streak of Eureka type zones
    Which would be fine, if all of them didn't fail miserably. Do they really need players to tell them that single-use content that you're done with in a week is not the best idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seolhyun View Post
    that would be even worse. why is everyone obsessed with lazy tomes? you want to do the same roulettes and hunt trains u have done for a year? if you want tome weapons they already exist?

    stormblood added 4 new zones with unique mechs and a huge raid at the end. shb added bozja with multiple zones and raids and even a savage version. now we get hildebrand questline (not funny) and a vendor? lazy
    You realize those are just the first two steps, right? The quest is not finished and I’m pretty sure the grind is coming although not as a new zone. Anyway, I’d take tomes and run content I like over running dozens of old fates or the same raid over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    You realize those are just the first two steps, right? The quest is not finished and I’m pretty sure the grind is coming although not as a new zone. Anyway, I’d take tomes and run content I like over running dozens of old fates or the same raid over and over.
    You realize those "just the first two steps" are HALF of the relic questline, and we have two patches left to make this more interesting? Why would anything change in the latter half if the first half was already casually completable just by having your tomestones 3/4 capped going into it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seolhyun View Post
    you want to do the same roulettes and hunt trains u have done for a year? if you want tome weapons they already exist?
    This was, in large part, how the Heavensward relic was done back in the day, farming tomes from Atherochemical Research Facility, and many players preferred the Heavensward system to Eureka/Bojza explicitly because they could try to accomplish two in-game goals at once rather than being quardened off into separate zones where you cant do other things while running the content.

    Yes, this relic weapon could have used more than just get 1,500 tomes per weapon per step, and I think doing something like the Endwalker relic where maybe between the steps you have one big task to accomplish before you can unlock and breeze through the later ones. But even at it's dull simplicity here, I still prefer it over being forced into exploratory zones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    This was, in large part, how the Heavensward relic was done back in the day, farming tomes from Atherochemical Research Facility, and many players preferred the Heavensward system to Eureka/Bojza explicitly because they could try to accomplish two in-game goals at once rather than being quardened off into separate zones where you cant do other things while running the content.

    Yes, this relic weapon could have used more than just get 1,500 tomes per weapon per step, and I think doing something like the Endwalker relic where maybe between the steps you have one big task to accomplish before you can unlock and breeze through the later ones. But even at it's dull simplicity here, I still prefer it over being forced into exploratory zones.
    Too many people who clamour for the ARR/HW system clamour for what they think is the original system when really it’s the nerfed poetic system

    Look at books, you won’t naturally complete books just doing your daily’s, you have to seek out the content the books want you to do

    But people today see anima relics as nerfed poetic dumps and go “yeah the two for one system is good”
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