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    Loporrits quest title incorrect

    For the quest "Always wear protection"

    "Synthesize parasital infection protection suit components"

    Correct word should read as

    "Synthesize parasitical infection protection suit components"

    Parasitical is the adjective form of parasitic:

    "A disease or infection is parasitical in nature."
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    just like "aluminum" and "aluminium" that's just the american pronunciation of the word
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    It's always a good idea to look up the word you want to correct before trying to correct it.
    Merriam-Webster: Parasital
    Quote Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster: Parasital
    parasital adjective
    par·​a·​si·​tal
    : PARASITIC

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Parasitical is the adjective form of parasitic:

    "A disease or infection is parasitical in nature."
    Parasitic is the adjective form of parasite. Parasitical is also the adjective form of parasite, though Merriam-Webster notes that parasitical is less common.
    Merriam-Webster: Parasitic
    Quote Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster: Parasitic
    parasitic adjective
    par·​a·​sit·​ic
    or less commonly parasitical
    I would say parasitical is a bad choice for its redundancy. It wants to add a suffix to an adjective to make another adjective that means the same as the original adjective.
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    It's always a good idea to look up the word you want to correct before trying to correct it.
    Rongway: I served 11 years in a volunteer emergency medical unit, worked in hospitals, nursing homes, and hospices, my late wife was a qualified nurse with a post grad cert in palliative care...not once have I ever heard the word "parasital" used in that context.

    The correct context of that word, as an adjective and in ALL medical terminology is "parasitic" "parasitical", a "parasitical infection" "anti parasitic medication".

    Cambridge Dictonary:

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/...lish/parasitic

    parasitic
    adjective
    US /ˌper.əˈsɪt̬.ɪk/ UK /ˌpær.əˈsɪt.ɪk/
    (also parasitical, US/ˌper.əˈsɪt̬.ɪk.əl/ UK/ˌpær.əˈsɪt.ɪk.əl/)

    A parasitic disease is caused by a parasite (= an animal or plant that lives on or in another animal or plant of a different type and feeds from it):
    https://www.britannica.com/science/parasitic-disease

    parasitic disease, in humans, any illness that is caused by a parasite, an organism that lives in or on another organism (known as the host). Parasites typically benefit from such relationships, often at the expense of the host organisms.
    It is indicated as an anti-parasitic for the hygiene and care of dogs due to its high repellence capacity.
    I might also add that "Parasital " is a TRADE NAME for an anti parasitic dog collar.

    Now lets go to the Royal Australian College of General Practitioners ( Id say they know what they are talking about.. wouldnt you?)

    https://www.racgp.org.au/afp/2012/oc...oea-in-travell

    Parasitic causes of prolonged diarrhoea in travellers Diagnosis and management
    Lastly

    parasitical
    [parasitical]
    DEFINITION
    adjective form of parasitic
    My original conclusion stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Rongway: I served 11 years in a volunteer emergency medical unit, worked in hospitals, nursing homes, and hospices, my late wife was a qualified nurse with a post grad cert in palliative care...not once have I ever heard the word "parasital" used in that context.
    And yet I showed you that Merriam-Webster includes it in their dictionary. As descriptive grammarians, Merriam-Webster keep extensive, detailed records of words in actual usage, and words are only added to the dictionary when:
    Quote Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster: How does a word get into a Merriam-Webster Dictionary?
    To be included in a Merriam-Webster dictionary, a word must be used in a substantial number of citations that come from a wide range of publications over a considerable period of time. Specifically, the word must have enough citations to allow accurate judgments about its establishment, currency, and meaning.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/help...nto-dictionary

    That is, multiple and varied sources show that a word is in regular use and has staying power. If you have never heard the word parasital used in context, that's fine. However, the grammarians at Merriam-Webster have heard it in context. Many times. Enough to judge that it is an established, current, and meaningful inclusion in the language.


    And even if real world context mattered, you know what game you're playing. You've been around long enough to know that the localizers will often choose lesser used forms of words when it makes things sound either more old timey or more fantastical. And why wouldn't the whimsical bunny race but recently woken from a twelve thousand year slumber not have a few oddities to their word choices?
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    That is, multiple and varied sources show that a word is in regular use and has staying power. If you have never heard the word parasital used in context, that's fine. However, the grammarians at Merriam-Webster have heard it in context. Many times. Enough to judge that it is an established, current, and meaningful inclusion in the language.
    Noted and rejected, the proper usage of the word as defined specifically by the RACGP is the final word on the matter. You are free, of course, to argue the proper terminology as defined by the foremost medical authority.

    Discussion OVER.
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    Also one of the words in the second rank up quest for the Loporrits is wrong. The npc in question said “subside” when they should’ve said “subsist” as they were discussing what foods they tend to consume in their daily diet. I can’t recall the specific quest name but I came across that glaring error yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Noted and rejected, the proper usage of the word as defined specifically by the RACGP is the final word on the matter. You are free, of course, to argue the proper terminology as defined by the foremost medical authority.

    Discussion OVER.
    No, it's not.

    Authorities on medicine are not authorities on actual language use. They can prescribe terms all they want; it is up to people to choose whether they follow those prescriptions or not. As I have said and as you have ignored, descriptive grammarians keep track of how real people use language in real contexts. As much as I may cringe at other people's use of "a bicep" to mean the biceps muscle of a single arm, it is in widespread use and my insistence that a single example of that particular arm muscle is "a biceps" does not erase that, no matter how many medical authorities I may cite supporting that. Or when laypeople use "muscle tone" to describe the external visual leanness around a muscle rather than the muscle's baseline resting contraction. Anyone with any formal training in exercise physiology will tell you laypeople are using the term "muscle tone" wrong, but good luck dictating that it must be stricken from everyone's vocabulary.

    You are caught up in being prescriptive and authoritarian, which is the absolute worst approach to grammar.
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    Authorities on medicine are not authorities on actual language use.
    Did you just say that a doctor isnt an expert on the use of medical terminology?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Did you just say that a doctor isnt an expert on the use of medical terminology?
    You seem to not have yet learned that medical terms and common language often have different terms for the same thing.

    No one says "sodium chlorite", we say "table salt" to quote a meme.
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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