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    People trying to ignore the language barrier are still missing the point of it. We have translators for sure but I dont think them and the actual developers can come directly chat with us as frequently as we want because of it. It costs extra money to keep that sort of service running and while we love to meme that SE are a small independent company that they can afford to dump all their money into FFXIV (which is extremely stupid for them to do as SE also develops tons of other games besides FFXIV and it be a waste of their resources), you also got to keep in mind that the actual studio adheres to a limited set budget that they're given for their game. We have been told that thanks to FFXIV's current success this budget of theirs has increased (which I imagine is why we're able to get a full blown graphics update that they're currently working on in the bg) at least.

    So the most we can do is to provide feedback, which is where the mods or whomever is in charge of collecting this data sends to the dev team which is then compiled with the rest of the other language forums of this game to figure out what exactly are the players wanting. The Japanese forums is easier on them because of course, its the main language and also a reliable nearby source for feedback on their end.

    This is how game studios from different parts of the world work, they cant "unfortunately" all be english-speaking Americans with a studio close to home to directly chat with us and have a more forward communication. Same goes for Blizzard or Smilegate, who do think which audience will they be better communicating at directly with? Yeah, they're respective native audience
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    People trying to ignore the language barrier are still missing the point of it. We have translators for sure but I dont think them and the actual developers can come directly chat with us as frequently as we want because of it. It costs extra money to keep that sort of service running and while we love to meme that SE are a small independent company that they can afford to dump all their money into FFXIV (which is extremely stupid for them to do as SE also develops tons of other games besides FFXIV and it be a waste of their resources), you also got to keep in mind that the actual studio adheres to a limited set budget that they're given for their game. We have been told that thanks to FFXIV's current success this budget of theirs has increased (which I imagine is why we're able to get a full blown graphics update that they're currently working on in the bg) at least.

    So the most we can do is to provide feedback, which is where the mods or whomever is in charge of collecting this data sends to the dev team which is then compiled with the rest of the other language forums of this game to figure out what exactly are the players wanting. The Japanese forums is easier on them because of course, its the main language and also a reliable nearby source for feedback on their end.

    This is how game studios from different parts of the world work, they cant "unfortunately" all be english-speaking Americans with a studio close to home to directly chat with us and have a more forward communication. Same goes for Blizzard or Smilegate, who do think which audience will they be better communicating at directly with? Yeah, they're respective native audience
    Very true, after all Square Enix is a small indie company, please understand they cant have translators.

    Maybe we should make a gofundme for them so they can hire some

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Very true, after all Square Enix is a small indie company, please understand they cant have translators.

    Maybe we should make a gofundme for them so they can hire some

    /s
    How dare you suggest that SE's earnings be used on something to improve the game! That money should go straight to the shareholders! /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Welp. Then I don't know what to tell ya. Continue posting here where threads will likewise be just as effective as those on Reddit that were deleted? I.E. they will never be seen by anyone?
    Hey at least we can talk about things like this here without worrying about having our threads deleted.
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    I'm curious do the devs interact with the community in Japan in the forums. I've been here a long time and don't recall any interaction other then a post or two that is pinned to the top of the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaTearGriffin View Post
    Hey at least we can talk about things like this here without worrying about having our threads deleted.
    I'm pretty sure I just saw a few complaint threads deleted on r/ffxiv and even/ffxivdiscussion

    They're really moderating the shit out of them right now. lol
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    Having devs be in here directly is unrealistic. What is a realistic expectation is to have english community managers who engage with us and relay our concerns and such to the developers.

    I have never seen an official post on here except for the odd time a thread gets locked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Having devs be in here directly is unrealistic. What is a realistic expectation is to have english community managers who engage with us and relay our concerns and such to the developers.

    I have never seen an official post on here except for the odd time a thread gets locked.
    And for a game as popular as ffxiv i truly feel it is unacceptable that english community managers are non-existent. How do we even know our concerns are heard atp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Very true, after all Square Enix is a small indie company, please understand they cant have translators.

    Maybe we should make a gofundme for them so they can hire some

    /s
    Naw, I would rather you open a gofundme so that I can help pay for you to get better responses that arent overused and outdated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Naw, I would rather you open a gofundme so that I can help pay for you to get better responses that arent overused and outdated.
    Boohoo, maybe stop trying to defend a company like Square acting as if they cant afford translators, poor little Square Enix are too poor, maybe they should increase the sub price and the mog shop prices since obviously they have money issues right ?
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