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  1. #1
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    Renathras's Avatar
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    Ren Thras
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100

    Is Tank the happiest/most satisfied role right now?

    I'm not saying HAPPY, I'm saying "happIEST".

    A quick look at the DPS and Healing subforums, and people are quite vocal in their complaints. The Healer subforum is so toxic, it attacks on sight anyone who doesn't agree Healers are in terrible shape (though, to be fair, it seems to largely be the same ~5 people...), and the DPS forum has several different complaint threads, addressing everything from the 2 min meta to homogenization to dumbing down/"braindead" Jobs to Kaiten.......a LOT of Kaiten.

    By comparison, the Tanking area seems more...subdued, I guess?

    Not saying that means people are happy with everything (there are a lot of complaints about PLD, though with a healthy amount of people saying it's okay instead of just a single voice here or there), and while there are some complaints about things feeling samey, there doesn't seem to be the same level of bitterness the other two roles have going.

    Or are Tank players just generally more mellow? XD
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    I think the state of the balance of tanks right now is fine.
    There are some things I'd like to see changed as a whole about tanking but it has less to do with individual job design and more of fight design.
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    King Canadane
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    Sage Lv 100
    Since SB ended and ShB began, tanks cried.
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    L'tanan Tyanu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I think the state of the balance of tanks right now is fine.
    There are some things I'd like to see changed as a whole about tanking but it has less to do with individual job design and more of fight design.
    Same here, outside of tankbusters (and I like the bleed they threw on so I think those were an improvement this tier) there's not really much tank-specific stuff to deal with. Autos maybe? That's kinda split between healers and tanks though.
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by baklava151 View Post
    Same here, outside of tankbusters (and I like the bleed they threw on so I think those were an improvement this tier) there's not really much tank-specific stuff to deal with. Autos maybe? That's kinda split between healers and tanks though.
    I do not like the fact that the entire Abyssos tier had exactly 1 instance of having to move and position the boss properly. With the hitboxes as large as they are, this took one of tank's unique duties and removed it.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    I'm simply done constantly complaining about the same points.

    Warrior is an absolute snoozefest of a job that has slowly had all remaining nuance sucked out of it after 4.2, Hypervelocity and Double Down were a mistake, tanks have been gradually reduced to gimped dps that just get hit in the face more often ever since Shadowbringers, the 2 minute meta is absolute garbage that not only makes the gameplay even more boring than it has been in ShB but also restricts job design further (not just a tank issue but it affects them all the same), yada yada.

    Could I make a new thread about it every 4 months? Sure, but it's not going to change anything, certainly not in this expansion. So I'm at a point where I simply wait until 7.0 and if none of my issues are adressed I'm gonna look somewhere else.

    Maybe there's not as much complaining anymore because we've already been dealing with it for 3 years, Shadowbringers dealt the majority of damage, Endwalker just doubled down on it.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 03-09-2023 at 04:46 PM.

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    Wind-up Everyone
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    Combat as a whole is just utterly abysmal. There are no depths they will not try to plumb. Given the reworked instances and jobs, for some strange reason it seems this is intentional.
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    I still lament the removal of stance dancing zzz~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    I'm simply done constantly complaining about the same points.

    Warrior is an absolute snoozefest of a job that has slowly had all remaining nuance sucked out of it after 4.2, Hypervelocity and Double Down were a mistake, tanks have been gradually reduced to gimped dps that just get hit in the face more often ever since Shadowbringers, the 2 minute meta is absolute garbage that not only makes the gameplay even more boring than it has been in ShB but also restricts job design further (not just a tank issue but it affects them all the same), yada yada.

    Could I make a new thread about it every 4 months? Sure, but it's not going to change anything, certainly not in this expansion. So I'm at a point where I simply wait until 7.0 and if none of my issues are adressed I'm gonna look somewhere else.

    Maybe there's not as much complaining anymore because we've already been dealing with it for 3 years, Shadowbringers dealt the majority of damage, Endwalker just doubled down on it.
    I don't think the developers even view it as an issue how much combat has been dumbed down
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    Rieanna Cohen
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    Excalibur
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Honestly the only reason the tank section looks calm, comparatively, is that most of the louder people seem to have burned themselves out after years of complaints have largely gone ignored. Or just straight up left/quit the game. Also, unhappy dps know that dps issues tend to be addressed faster and there's more options to find something else they can settle on if their current job gets messed with in a way they can't stand. The tank forums also tend to get a *lot* less random people rolling into them to tell older players they're wrong about the issues they have with the role, so there tends to be significantly less of the constant screaming about the same 2-3 topics that the healer section gets. And you can only have the same conversations with the same people so many times before everyone collectively gets bored of it. So, I guess, it's most just of a sigh of quiet acceptance that there's not much point at screaming at the heavens over here, rather than being happy. A degree of worn down apathy rather than anger, I guess.
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