If PVP matchmaking is RNG, why are premade Parties still allowed in Fronlines?

[RNGSatan]

Please, point out to me the lie. Was it the part where I said losing wasn't your fault? Because you certainly are seeming like the common zombie you find in FL.

every single word was a lie. because of toxic liars like you game became shit.

[Nikoto]

every single word was a lie. because of toxic liars like you game became shit.

Explain how every single word was a lie, with evidence pointing to it.

[HaruGrimgar]

Dude, stop complaining.
You may be right that premade focks up balance, but is that their fault?
Maybe SE could make a better balance system? O no ,of course not, these is all premades fault.
How dare they play with their friends!? Such a toxic bastards.

I have a harsh truth... even one motivated and experienced player can carry his team. Just look at FL legend Tony Hawkins@Spriggan.
Also if 95% players q up in FL just for exp... do we have to play worse to let you enjoy game? You are here for exp anyway so we are helping you finish game faster and go do other stuff ))

And last point:
I can give you some tip... it is very easy to find premade, all you have to do... just join to public pvp servers on your DC. People accept anyone in their parties.

[Kansene]

There is a valid point from each side for sure.

Playing with friends is awesome. All content gets more fun when you do it with people you like, and seeing your coordination with others get good results is satisfying.

On the other hand, being on the team where there isn't a premade of friends is going to reduce your chances of winning astronomically.

4 people who are on voice comms and syncing their LBs can absolutely hard carry their team to victory. If you have a team of 1 DRK, 1 WAR, and 2 DRG who can quickly and efficiently communicate through voice, the DRK can pull people in, the WAR can deny them the chance to use Guard, and 2 DRGs having pre-popped their LB to make sure they land just as the DRK pulls are guaranteed to wipe the floor with the entire front of another team's guys.
Even just stacking DRKs and everyone pulling in quick succession is super effective, there's going to be an absolute avalanche of damage and unpurifiable CC that people just won't survive through.
It sucks to fight such teams, because they have a massive advantage in the form of a well-coordinated strike team.
And PvP is really unpopular in general, of all my friends on FF, only one person plus myself are interested in PvP at all, so I literally can't do the same thing unless I specifically start searching for people for the sole purpose of 4-person PvP queueing.

Disabling premades would be awful. I have a partner I play with, and we're enjoying it a lot. As disheartening as it is to see people who are obviously queueing as 4-man teams and sync-LBing, I'd be sadder to lose the ability to queue with my partner.
Heck, I'm salty I can't queue for CC with a friend, I was really looking forward to it before the news dropped that you're forced to solo queue for it, killed my interest for a long time.

There's no solution that I think would make a lot of people happy, things probably have to just stay the way they are.
But it's not 100% black and white here; facing 4-man premades really, really sucks. It's very noticeable, and you lose the majority of times you meet a setup like that. Just because removing this issue would cause even bigger issues, it doesn't mean it's not a bad thing that's worth acknowledging.

[LifeupOmega]

whats miserable is going with those fake friend (for win trading) yes call it what it is -win trading for Frontlines. pathetic really. its FL, not ranked! but still there are people who creates PVP only oriented players groups so they would get guaranteed wins. and all your argument about "playing with friends" is saying it with a tongue in cheek. nobody is that naive.

P.S. maybe this issue is not as rampamt on US servers , so you have no clue what I am talking about, but on EU its rampant and very noticable.

Exactly. It's FL, not ranked, people want to play with friends in an MMO. If you want to remove queueing in a team, you remove the ability for people to play with friends, in a game designed around playing with your friends. Plus, it's not their fault the average XIV player can barely comprehend a 1-2-3 combo and how to follow up on initiation. Given that there's no ranking in FL, you're going to get the first time players, the dipshit MCHs who can't even reach BH1, healbots who think they can heal a team, and the BH5 every game players all in the same game with no discrimination as to where they end up teamwise.

And to add to that final point, I play on both EU and NA, never had an issue with my own performance, get to be consistently top end damage and BH5 every game, and I don't care enough about cracking down on a minority of players who might be abusing parties, which is laughable given the 2/3 chance to be in the wrong team anyway.

[RyanCousland]

every single word was a lie. because of toxic liars like you game became shit.

I used to do callouts / commands and i can tell you it was never premades that were toxic because you could tell how insync they were when it came to listening to the chat however the same cant be said of most solo quers who spam the chat with things like "shut up", "stop taking this seriously", or "idc about winning", and when they dont listen you get "bad callouts LMAO Lol" so removing 4 person que would make FL even more unbearable, and this is coming from someone who rarely played with fc mates in both 8 and 4 person que, my advice if youre soloing FL and want win is take command otherwise just snipe and have fun

[Kansene]

"shut up", "stop taking this seriously", or "idc about winning", and when they dont listen you get "bad callouts LMAO Lol"

These are definitely the worst people to get on your team. The people who never try, and never care, or worse, either AFK or run straight into enemies and feed them.
I'd take getting spawn farmed to oblivion and end the game with 0 points over carrying 5 AFKers to victory tbh.

[RyanCousland]

These are definitely the worst people to get on your team. The people who never try, and never care, or worse, either AFK or run straight into enemies and feed them.
I'd take getting spawn farmed to oblivion and end the game with 0 points over carrying 5 AFKers to victory tbh.

i would try regardless but since i play on console my macros arent equipped to argue with trolls on FL and theyre not even obnoxious ones mine are just simple "kill blue(immortal flames)" along with a Flag notification but there was a time i took a break because dealing with that is just not worth it

[IDontPetLalas]

These are definitely the worst people to get on your team. The people who never try, and never care, or worse, either AFK or run straight into enemies and feed them.
I'd take getting spawn farmed to oblivion and end the game with 0 points over carrying 5 AFKers to victory tbh.

I agree with you completely, and while I understand it may be a nuisance, or feel frustrating please report them - otherwise nothing gets done.

Before someone says - but they're only a small PVP response team, I only get a generic reply - there is a dedicated topic in the support tickets expressly for this.

[Garten]

Dude, stop complaining.
You may be right that premade focks up balance, but is that their fault?
Maybe SE could make a better balance system? O no ,of course not, these is all premades fault.
How dare they play with their friends!? Such a toxic bastards.

I have a harsh truth... even one motivated and experienced player can carry his team. Just look at FL legend Tony Hawkins@Spriggan.
Also if 95% players q up in FL just for exp... do we have to play worse to let you enjoy game? You are here for exp anyway so we are helping you finish game faster and go do other stuff ))

And last point:
I can give you some tip... it is very easy to find premade, all you have to do... just join to public pvp servers on your DC. People accept anyone in their parties.

You know, this is a blatant example of why i found premades, i think the right word is ,, irritating. (but i know this is a me prob)
There are ppl, that are known for "being strong", like the one you mentioned (but i am not referring to him in this case). And i am so used to seeing them that i know also by experience who are their friends (cause they are 90% of the time in the same team, or are from the same guild)..
When they are together they are strong, very strong.
But SOMETIMES they are alone.
AND
THEY
SUCK
I dunno if they are not caring, if they are having a tea, watching netflix, or wathever... there was literally the number 1 from CHAOS sometimes in my alliance just SUCKING AS HELL..
And.. and i cant say nothing (even if they are LITERALLY griefing if we have to go by definition).. cause if i say something "offending" in chat, "I" will get reported lol