If PVP matchmaking is RNG, why are premade Parties still allowed in Fronlines?

[RNGSatan]

Pre- Formed parties in FL drastically (negatively) affect gameplay for all other players who dont have luxury of PVP minded friends to join them in FL.Yes there are parties from FC's etc, but they would have same experience as if they would que alone.
And if the team is LUCKY when those premade PRO PVP players join their team they just steamroll everything taking away all the thrill, fun and sense and equal competition.
PVP is already hated by majority of FF14 players and completely onesided wipes and wins just fuels discontent even more.

[Kansene]

I literally just came from an FL where we fought against a team of 7 DRKs and a bunch of warriors and DRGs who all constantly LB'd at the same time. At least one full premade in there for sure.
They just pulled both the other teams in non-stop and farmed us, ending up at 1600 and winning while both other teams were still around their 300s.
If we're not allowed to queue with a single friend in casual CC, I don't see why this should be allowed either indeed.

I don't think I'd be much happier being on their team either. When you can auto-win any battle you enter by spamming a zero-effort ability that even ignores CC immunity, where is the sense of accomplishment in winning?
Even pre-popping guard is useless thanks to the warriors LBing at the same time, and even if there were no warriors there were so many DRKs that they'd just have to slightly stagger their pulls to still win with zero counterplay involved.

[Nikoto]

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[Kansene]

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[RNGSatan]

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It has nothing to do with having friends, its all about balance. and now balance is heavily impacted sadly. but you already came here with toxic mindset so Im kinda wasting time on you.

[LifeupOmega]

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When the MMO is too MMO for players who want everyone else to be miserable and not play with friends.

[RNGSatan]

When the MMO is too MMO for players who want everyone else to be miserable and not play with friends.

whats miserable is going with those fake friend (for win trading) yes call it what it is -win trading for Frontlines. pathetic really. its FL, not ranked! but still there are people who creates PVP only oriented players groups so they would get guaranteed wins. and all your argument about "playing with friends" is saying it with a tongue in cheek. nobody is that naive.

P.S. maybe this issue is not as rampamt on US servers , so you have no clue what I am talking about, but on EU its rampant and very noticable.

[LifeupOmega]

whats miserable is going with those fake friend (for win trading) yes call it what it is -win trading for Frontlines. pathetic really. its FL, not ranked! but still there are people who creates PVP only oriented players groups so they would get guaranteed wins. and all your argument about "playing with friends" is saying it with a tongue in cheek. nobody is that naive.

P.S. maybe this issue is not as rampamt on US servers , so you have no clue what I am talking about, but on EU its rampant and very noticable.

Exactly. It's FL, not ranked, people want to play with friends in an MMO. If you want to remove queueing in a team, you remove the ability for people to play with friends, in a game designed around playing with your friends. Plus, it's not their fault the average XIV player can barely comprehend a 1-2-3 combo and how to follow up on initiation. Given that there's no ranking in FL, you're going to get the first time players, the dipshit MCHs who can't even reach BH1, healbots who think they can heal a team, and the BH5 every game players all in the same game with no discrimination as to where they end up teamwise.

And to add to that final point, I play on both EU and NA, never had an issue with my own performance, get to be consistently top end damage and BH5 every game, and I don't care enough about cracking down on a minority of players who might be abusing parties, which is laughable given the 2/3 chance to be in the wrong team anyway.

[Nikoto]

When the MMO is too MMO for players who want everyone else to be miserable and not play with friends.

Most the people here should just go and play SWTOR or some shit since it's basically a single player MMO like they all seem to want.

you give to much credit to 95% of playerbase who come to play FL just from duty roulette. those 4 with voice comms doing PVP daily and planned combos easily wrecks non PVP players who just do FL for EXP.

And what's wrong with this? Why shouldn't the people trying to be better, be better? Why shouldn't those who plan and work together win???