If PVP matchmaking is RNG, why are premade Parties still allowed in Fronlines?

[RNGSatan]

Pre- Formed parties in FL drastically (negatively) affect gameplay for all other players who dont have luxury of PVP minded friends to join them in FL.Yes there are parties from FC's etc, but they would have same experience as if they would que alone.
And if the team is LUCKY when those premade PRO PVP players join their team they just steamroll everything taking away all the thrill, fun and sense and equal competition.
PVP is already hated by majority of FF14 players and completely onesided wipes and wins just fuels discontent even more.

[Kansene]

I literally just came from an FL where we fought against a team of 7 DRKs and a bunch of warriors and DRGs who all constantly LB'd at the same time. At least one full premade in there for sure.
They just pulled both the other teams in non-stop and farmed us, ending up at 1600 and winning while both other teams were still around their 300s.
If we're not allowed to queue with a single friend in casual CC, I don't see why this should be allowed either indeed.

I don't think I'd be much happier being on their team either. When you can auto-win any battle you enter by spamming a zero-effort ability that even ignores CC immunity, where is the sense of accomplishment in winning?
Even pre-popping guard is useless thanks to the warriors LBing at the same time, and even if there were no warriors there were so many DRKs that they'd just have to slightly stagger their pulls to still win with zero counterplay involved.

[Nikoto]

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[Kansene]

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people salty other people have friends

[RNGSatan]

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people salty other people have friends

It has nothing to do with having friends, its all about balance. and now balance is heavily impacted sadly. but you already came here with toxic mindset so Im kinda wasting time on you.

[Kathleen_]

Maybe if the entirety of the western playerbase pressed some buttons instead of being mentally afk and going "I'm here only for the exp XD" then premades wouldn't absolutely steamroll. lol

[Mistress_Irika]

It has nothing to do with having friends, its all about balance. and now balance is heavily impacted sadly. but you already came here with toxic mindset so Im kinda wasting time on you.

I heard that last expansion from the people who wanted "easy wins". They deleted full party premades and made it light party. Plus they made everything forced freelancer. All if this was for "balance", to keep people from sitting in spawn for half of the game. From what I've seen with those changes "easy wins" went away and was instead replaced with "I'm just here for experience points." Granted that a light party can still do massive damage but not as much damage as before. To me, it was only a matter of time before premades would be brought up again since you still had a few people then who wanted to get rid of premades altogether and make it pure solo queue for frontlines.

Now then, you can take out premades just to end the DRK nightmare. However, I dont need to tell people to be careful with what they ask for. Just look up the many complaints in the general community forums. Anyways, if you take out premades you will get a fair game. However, you will also get a stale game, so stale that they'll hardly be another "balance" patch for frontlines because it's near perfectly balanced. No more having to make major changes because a group adapted and gave everyone another annoying thing to play around, granted that the changes was high needed this expansion thus far.

Coming from one who mainly does solo queue most of the changes made from Stormblood to now was made to accommodate the majority who refuse to adapt. Basically, it wasn't needed. It was just made to make game playing less annoying while the same strategies can freely be employed with little resistance. I'll let you think about it. I'm too tired to be doing any sort of defending for anyone. I don't feel like being told that I take frontlines too seriously anymore.

You want my thought on how to deal with DRK? Start by not letting their DOTs stack with each other. Besides the horiffic cc chaining it's too much work to try to survive all of that passive damage. Recuperate won't save you from this.

[GordonGeeko]

If you think 4 people out of 24 are too much of a factor to swing games (16.6% of your team), what do you think would happen in Crystalline Conflict if you have 2+ people playing together (40%+ of your team) ?

What about people who do callouts in Frontlines ? It seems to me like the team that has people giving instructions has an advantage. Maybe we should get rid of chat too.

[RNGSatan]

If you think 4 people out of 24 are too much of a factor to swing games (16.6% of your team), what do you think would happen in Crystalline Conflict if you have 2+ people playing together (40%+ of your team) ?

What about people who do callouts in Frontlines ? It seems to me like the team that has people giving instructions has an advantage. Maybe we should get rid of chat too.

you give to much credit to 95% of playerbase who come to play FL just from duty roulette. those 4 with voice comms doing PVP daily and planned combos easily wrecks non PVP players who just do FL for EXP.

[IckeDerTyp]

Am still waiting for party-queue CC!