What island sanctuary doesn't get about games like Animal Crossing/Stardew Valley.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I'll just keep saying what I keep saying. This content is meant to be built upon, which is what the language was expressed prior to its release. So instead of us talking as if what we got was its most "absolute" state and already throwing in the towel before letting the match finish, how about we just continue provide feedback and expectations of what we want out of this rather than nagging with our fingers like desperate little Karens?


I dont mind this thread existing because the feedback is still valuable but some of you people need to get some needed perspective. And I mean that in just general

[Amh_Wilzuun]

Also you can’t just handwave away legitimate criticism of IS by saying “tHe ExPectTions WeRE meT” when that whole argument is based around an out of context quote regarding IS not being housing which isn’t relevant to my points

[Greyhawk]

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/...nglish/opinion

I'd link you the definition of 'childish' but... well...

[Ultran]

Well, they also once said that deep dungeons would be worked on after they got released and barely anything was done with them. People are by now just not as willing to just wait for stuff until patch X.X because "Please look forward to it" has been said far too often by now without anything been ever done with the content after 1 or maybe 2 patches with slight changes to it. I understand that they might not want to announce everything immediatly but it would help a lot of they were a bit more willing to talk about projects they are working on or explain a bit more their thinking in regard of certain content. Why did they think that a mammet sweet shop is an sanctuary? Why did they see hard manual labor as something that should be done on a holiday island? Why not go the relaxing resort route or the jungle/beach adventure and survival path?

There are just so many question in my mind regarding the base design and setup of the whole island content. We have reached the end of our current story arc and the WoL can not just kick back on a nice tropical island? No, we need to be the foreman of Tatarus mammet gang...

[Melorie]

What I find the most ridiculous regarding IS is not that it's terrible at doing what's somewhat inspired by (stardew valleyish/animal crossing games), it's also terrible even when compared to the rest of XIV systems.

- You have, in-game, a somewhat fun decorating system that you can't use inside your own island.
- You have, in-game, a place with mini-games that pop-up and give you currency (ala Gold Saucer), with weekly challenges and achievements and none of that design philosophy is implemented in the island.
- You have, in-game, a gardening system that even with all it's fault is more than "just click", which you can use for decorating, crafting glamours (with flowers) or getting crystals (for gathering), but none of that is implemented in the island.
- You have, in-game, ways of leveling your chocobo, training it, but you can't do that on your own island.
- You have, in-game, a system in which you can build/upgrade submarines and explore stuff for rare drops, and none of that is available in your island.
- You have, in-game, a system which people actually turn up to make part of your squad and bring you buffs through missions, and none of that is available in your island.
- You have, in-game, a way of trading currency made through hunts or fates in order to give you traits inside that particular map (we fly faster, but we could buy a trait/buff in which we are able to get more wood, for example).
- You have, in-game, ways of knowing new NPCs and even unlocking glamour for them with custom deliveries, developing a friendship with them and none of that is available for your island.
- You have, in-game, a gathering class that has a mini-game based on rng in order to catch rare spawns (fishing) that give you titles and achievements, and you have none of that in the island when it comes to capturing animals.
- You have, in-game, the ability of dropping maps with treasure chests and fun drops, but none of that is implemented in the island.
- You have, in-game, a sightseeing log you can complete and turn into paintings, fish you can put in aquariums and canvases, but there's none of that in your island.

These are just a few examples.

FFXIV did not even needed to copy other games, they could just use the system they already have in order to create an experience inside the sanctuary, which currently has none. Instead, they made a cookie clicker and anyone that was unimpressed by this apparently was expecting too much and being unfair to SE. I never ever believed the whole "personal housing" thing, but I never thought they could deliver something THIS hollow.
Like, it's not even a question of whether the experience is fun or not because it barely exists. It's not trying to be anything besides a cookie-clicker. Even the Doman Enclave Reconstruction was better at giving a sense of progression than Island Sanctuary.

They already did an update which was basically: here's glamour, here's mount, here's more levels, more meaningless vertical progression, and if people doesn't believe this will get better they're Karens? Ah, c'mon.

[Jojoya]

What the OP doesn't get about content like Island Sanctuary:

As SE stated on multiple occasions prior to its release, Island Sanctuary was never intended to be an Animal Crossing or Stardew Valley. Bringing up yet another set of comparisons is pointless.

Yes, because I don't like it. Because many people don't like it.

Okay, so you and others don't like it. Other players do and visit their Sanctuaries regularly.

SE doesn't expect every player to like every piece of content released in the game.

You could just ignore that it exists just as I pretty much ignore PvP. Sure, PvP has some rewards I want but since I don't enjoy PvP I go without those rewards. Instead I do the content I do enjoy and get the rewards I want from that content. I don't sit in the forums and complain about all the ways PvP is bad content.

[Melorie]

You could just ignore that it exists just as I pretty much ignore PvP. Sure, PvP has some rewards I want but since I don't enjoy PvP I go without those rewards. Instead I do the content I do enjoy and get the rewards I want from that content. I don't sit in the forums and complain about all the ways PvP is bad content.

If you feel like people shouldn't be allowed to express feedback of a feature that was a selling point of the expansion, perhaps you should be the one avoiding going into a place meant for feedback - the official forum of the game - just to tell people to ignore things.

Some people actually are a bit more dense and are able to identify what they like or dislike about what's being provided. I don't dislike PVP, but I DO dislike frontlines and the whole "here's a giant map with three teams which in sandwich each other", so I appreciate they actually developed CC. If everyone that wasn't a fan of Frontlines just ignored it, never voicing any opinion regarding it, we wouldn't have gotten CC.
So yeah, I suggest that instead of telling people to "ignore" and not use their brains to formulate feedback, maybe you should stop reading complaints in a place that is made to receive them.

[ameliaw]

Okay, so you and others don't like it. Other players do and visit their Sanctuaries regularly.

SE doesn't expect every player to like every piece of content released in the game.

You could just ignore that it exists just as I pretty much ignore PvP. Sure, PvP has some rewards I want but since I don't enjoy PvP I go without those rewards. Instead I do the content I do enjoy and get the rewards I want from that content. I don't sit in the forums and complain about all the ways PvP is bad content.

Same! I also happen to dislike FFXIV's pvp. I find it boring and the rewards aren't enough to make me stomach it. I never complained about it in the forums. However, I can and I should complain about content that I think should be better than it is

I'd link you the definition of 'childish' but... well...

You should take a look yourself. Acting like an opinion is invalid because you don't like it isn't mature behavior.

[Oizen]

Why is it people are expecting so much out of I.S. when SquareEnix literally stated:



It's obvious they are going to add something like things you can buy from the vendors there. There's no reason to expect anything else. There's no reason to expect more out of it than what they said.

Some of you want the moon, and you were told you can't get anything more than a rock.
Now you are talking about "what they can save or fix" it.

No, blood still isn't coming out of the turnip.

They should have said that about all of Endwalker.

[Vahlnir]

If you feel like people shouldn't be allowed to express feedback of a feature that was a selling point of the expansion, perhaps you should be the one avoiding going into a place meant for feedback - the official forum of the game - just to tell people to ignore things.
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So yeah, I suggest that instead of telling people to "ignore" and not use their brains to formulate feedback, maybe you should stop reading complaints in a place that is made to receive them.

But that would make sense. It's why I have an issue with a few posters around these parts, though I won't name any names. They claim to support feedback, but if anything negative is said about their precious game, they are quick to tell people to shut up, be happy darnit and/or tell them to quit if they are so unhappy. It's entirely possible to like enough features of the game to stick around, but have a bone to pick with things we may find poorly implemented. It seems like none of them understand this.