Lazy Design

[Supersnow845]

Fully agreed. Let's face it, we all have a lot on our plate these days. I myself have been enjoying other games. Why should we be forced to grind some useless trinkets? I just want to get my shit and leave so I can resume playing my other games. You know what else forces you to play? World of Warcraft. We don't want to be like that game, do we? Didn't think so. Being forced to play video games is tantamount to modern-day slavery.

So thank you, Yoshida, for letting us play other games. We all thank you. My Steam library thanks you.

Have you ever considered if you don’t want to grind that you just shouldn’t do the relics

The relics have always been grinds designed to populate old content the roulettes don’t do a good job of populating, it’s not like completing a relic is mandatory for progression to the next expansion

Just leave them Grindy then people can choose whether to do them or not

[sharknado]

The relics have always been grinds designed to populate old content the roulettes don’t do a good job of populating, it’s not like completing a relic is mandatory for progression to the next expansion

More like current content at the time when they were current. And whenever an older instance shows up also unsync option can pop up which isn't for roulette.

IMHO the problem is with the definition. If it's all about cosmetics and not player power then it can be detached from gearing progression and can be slow. If it's attached to ilvl and gearing progression then it can't be slower than said progression or people get angry their relic weapon is useless for a month or two when they have to switch to crafted or EX weapon. The first step of current relics was quick and easy and for some jobs with better stats than a normally available weapon - so people got a lot of them, even for all jobs. In that case, it's rather obvious it will be just an alternative to EX/tome weapon of a given tier.

And like what would be the point to have 25 current alliance raid runs to "charge" the weapon? or 100 runs of level 90 roulettes? For an awesome cosmetic look for main/selected job where Savage would be the only similar alternative it's fine. For relic as a generic progression weapon with somewhat better looks that are used en-mass as a progression item not really.

[Shinkuno]

Have you ever considered if you don’t want to grind that you just shouldn’t do the relics

The relics have always been grinds designed to populate old content the roulettes don’t do a good job of populating, it’s not like completing a relic is mandatory for progression to the next expansion

Just leave them Grindy then people can choose whether to do them or not

The person you replied to is not serious by the way, they make fun of the "dae its not wow?" crowd, one of the other posts they made was pretty clear about it cause they attached a meme image to the text ^^