Lazy Design

[Takamorisan]

Either they are focusing all their guns on 7.0 or we are just seeing the results of SE draining all the cash from FFXIV into other projects (lousy ones) and not making the effort to return the investment to this what I call their golden goose given how their other projects went so far.

[MonteCristo]

Either they are focusing all their guns on 7.0 or we are just seeing the results of SE draining all the cash from FFXIV into other projects (lousy ones) and not making the effort to return the investment to this what I call their golden goose given how their projects went so far.

Either way is starting to feel like a slap in the face to my bank account monthly...especially when they been charging it for over 10 years

[Takamorisan]

Either way is starting to feel like a slap in the face to my bank account monthly...especially when they been charging it for over 10 years

They will only change their pattern if sub numbers take hit and/or people stop consuming the Mogstore. Because they will only see the USD. You can spam the forums and this won't change at all, their financials always dictate if change is required.

[GhostZukin]

They're basically going down the same path that Trion Worlds did: They made a hit (Rift) and then just diverted all the money into other failures which became money vacuums. It makes me concerned because one day, there may come a time to where they run out of money and then this game goes into maintenance mode.

[Takamorisan]

They're basically going down the same path that Trion Worlds did: They made a hit (Rift) and then just diverted all the money into other failures which became money vacuums. It makes me concerned because one day, there may come a time to where they run out of money and then this game goes into maintenance mode.

Currently what makes me concerned the guy who gonna replace Matsuda its another NFTard so business direction gonna be probably all the same.

[EliaStormblade]

I feel like if anything, people should just start advocating for relic weapons to have their own dedicated activities and prerequisites. Not just trite "farm this thing over and over again until you reach the arbitrary number" or "give me some currency." Make it feel personalized. But even then, I bet people would complain that it's not dragged out enough and that they therefore can't use it to justify staying subbed or something.

[Bsrking5]

Um what? I couldn't believe it. A second, hey just give me ummm... 1500 tombstones. Did they hire blizzard devs to do this or something?

[Liam_Harper]

Unpopular opinion but I feel like deep dungeons were always badly designed and players have just accepted it because they're straightforward, mildly fun and were "new" on release.

The save system is extremely restrictive and unnecessary, makes playing with different friends or FC a pain and going back to the start after a wipe on a high floor is punishing in a way that doesn't feel good because it means you have to chew through all the easy floors just to get back to the engaging part. The leveling floors are so easy they put you to sleep and become boring very fast.

There's a good base idea that's spoiled by clinging to restrictive systems and gimmicks.

[Remish]

Unpopular opinion but I feel like deep dungeons were always badly designed and players have just accepted it because they're straightforward, mildly fun and were "new" on release.

The save system is extremely restrictive and unnecessary, makes playing with different friends or FC a pain and going back to the start after a wipe on a high floor is punishing in a way that doesn't feel good because it means you have to chew through all the easy floors just to get back to the engaging part. The leveling floors are so easy they put you to sleep and become boring very fast.

There's a good base idea that's spoiled by clinging to restrictive systems and gimmicks.

From my perspective new players accepted it because with the original Palace of the Dead, they were always conditioned that deep dungeon was the place to go to "get a feel for new jobs" without having to level them and that mentality had never went away. Infact it continued to get promoted with the likes of HoH and slightly Bozja. You always saw people queuing on jobs they don't know how to play to test them out and some of these jobs play a bit differently in Deep Dungeon than actual dungeons.

[TalithaSolarien]

Have you actually tried going to the floors beyond floor 30 ? There are are quite a few changes there (like the new demi mobs), the mobs are way more dangerous, the bosses have actual mechanics you need to do (like twister) and the pomanders were nerfed (the HoH pomanders were way to potent for a deep dungeon).