"Just wait until *insert next patch*!"

[Vahlnir]

Also forgot to mention, I know people in my circle that are actually perfectly fine with today's patch, especially relic step. Their mentality "I can take it easy with just dailies" shows the short term view they have. It's very disappointing to see the game go into that direction.

FF XIV has always taken pride in being a casual, easy going MMO, and I've never had an issue with it. In fact, that's a large reason why I've stuck with it for so long. But I do think that they are beginning to lean too far in that direction at this point. There needs to be a middle ground. Over time, they are giving me less reasons to stick around.

[AwesomeJr44]

FF XIV has always taken pride in being a casual, easy going MMO, and I've never had an issue with it. But I do think that they are beginning to lean too far in that direction at this point. There needs to be a middle ground. Over time, they are giving me less reasons to stick around.

^ This. It's fine for a game to want to cater to a more casual audience, but why does it have to be so extreme? The game shouldn't be made exclusively for those who log in once every 2 or 4 months for new patches, play for a few days, and then quit again. There should be content and systems in the game for those who want to stick around too. People here seem to assume that anyone who wants to play more than once every four months wants the other extreme and is looking for a WoW-tier grind, but why can't we arrive at somewhere in the middle?

[Rehayem]

^ This. It's fine for a game to want to cater to a more casual audience, but why does it have to be so extreme? The game shouldn't be made exclusively for those who log in once every 2 or 4 months for new patches, play for a few days, and then quit again. There should be content and systems in the game for those who want to stick around too. People here seem to assume that anyone who wants to play more than once every four months wants the other extreme and is looking for a WoW-tier grind, but why can't we arrive at somewhere in the middle?

It doesn't help that Yoshi-P himself is encouraging people to play other games. I was actually shocked, and it's usually a bad sign when a producer of a game is encouraging you to play other games. In most cases developers will try to keep you occupied with their game so they can get the revenue from it, but this? It's gonna bite back really hard.

[AnnRam]

Who cares, 90% of the player base dont even play the game they use FFXIV as a poor second life viewer.

[DragonFlyy]

Stop waiting, quit now.

[Payadopa]

I disagree with the new Deep Dungeon being exactly the same. It's way more fun and the first 30 levels can actually kill you. And the boss mechanics are interesting. lol It's not 'omg amazing' but I take nice 4 man content over regular dungeons these days.

[Avoidy]

shb was worse because of covid, but at least we had bozja, zadnor, and some grindy relics to fiddle with
in ew we're about to go into a content drought with... *checks notes* island sanctuary and criterion dungeons for company

[Rehayem]

Stop waiting, quit now.

Telling people to quit does not solve the issue at hand. I can count so many MMORPGs whose playerbase told those "crybabies" to quit, only then they themselves complain that population is low and game is dead. People complaining is a valid form of criticism.

[Boblawblah]

It's fine for a game to want to cater to a more casual audience, but why does it have to be so extreme? The game shouldn't be made exclusively for those who log in once every 2 or 4 months for new patches, play for a few days, and then quit again.

I'm in this post and I'm happier for it.

[EliaStormblade]

I'm enjoying myself just fine. As for the story? It can't compare to ShB or SB's equivalent narrative, but I can at least have the good grace to take into account that both of those patches built upon their respective main expansion MSQs, whereas our current MSQ hinges entirely on itself and honestly really only started in 6.2. I don't expect a grand and tear-jerking climax, but I should believe that they know how to give us something more akin to a 3.3, 4.3 5.3 with 6.4 and 6.5.