"Just wait until *insert next patch*!"

[VelKallor]

Yes your anecdote on people leaving materia is definitely evidence, let’s just ignore the lucky surveys done almost every single patch you are totally correct here

This isn’t to say square should put more effort into making materia better but you are just talking out of your ass here

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2023/01/ff...s-one-year-on/

It’s not all creativity and calm to make up for the lack of numbers, however. Some members of the community have been incredibly vocal about the lack of local players. Some have decided to go back to their original data shards, and others have refused to move in the first place.

I am on Kujata and I am seeing people coming back from OCE every single day. You may call it anecdotal, I was on Zurvan and Ravana...so yes I do know.

People refused to leave their servers, their houses, their FCs, their statics, their friends. Until such time as SE can get SEA aboard, can arrange regional data centre travel, OCE will remain isolated..with all the problems that come with it.

[Supersnow845]

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2023/01/ff...s-one-year-on/



I am on Kujata and I am seeing people coming back from OCE every single day. You may call it anecdotal, I was on Zurvan and Ravana...so yes I do know.

Anecdotal means presenting your personal experiences as fact not me accusing you of lying, the lucky surveys constantly show materia is stable in lulls and growing in active patch times

[DixieBellOCE]

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2023/01/ff...s-one-year-on/



I am on Kujata and I am seeing people coming back from OCE every single day. You may call it anecdotal, I was on Zurvan and Ravana...so yes I do know.

People refused to leave their servers, their houses, their FCs, their statics, their friends. Until such time as SE can get SEA aboard, can arrange regional data centre travel, OCE will remain isolated..with all the problems that come with it.

I can confirm that people are leaving OCE constantly, even on NA servers there are refugee's returning at a steady rate.
On visits to my old FC on Ravana, nearly every single member of the FC is burned out or has taken long breaks from the game.

I still jump on to play my alt now and then, the ping is nice, but the wait times and lack of players actually doing something other than afking in a town hub, is enough to remind me to never transfer my main back to Materia.

For any proof, the Census data was release 3 days ago.


Materia is losing more players than it is gaining. Full stop, there is no argument for it.

The question has to be asked time and time again, At what point will Materia get data center travel. Without it, it is not worth the time investment playing there.

[Supersnow845]

I can confirm that people are leaving OCE constantly, even on NA servers there are refugee's returning at a steady rate.
On visits to my old FC on Ravana, nearly every single member of the FC is burned out or has taken long breaks from the game.

I still jump on to play my alt now and then, the ping is nice, but the wait times and lack of players actually doing something other than afking in a town hub, is enough to remind me to never transfer my main back to Materia.

For any proof, the Census data was release 3 days ago.


Materia is losing more players than it is gaining. Full stop, there is no argument for it.

The question has to be asked time and time again, At what point will Materia get data center travel. Without it, it is not worth the time investment playing there.

Wow materia lost what 500 people and most of those 500 people went on pause, almost nobody actually left materia in those statistics and even more people moved in,, wanna see how many people mana lost in the same time frame, this is a massive mid patch content drought, if any servers didn’t lose people I’d be absolutely shocked

Stable in a content drought means slight reduction, these stats aren’t saying what you think they are saying

[VelKallor]

Anecdotal means presenting your personal experiences as fact not me accusing you of lying, the lucky surveys constantly show materia is stable in lulls and growing in active patch times

Kujata 243,308

as opposed to

Bismarck 52,282
Ravana 63,729
Sephirot 70,879
Sophia 79,431
Zurvan 45,940

SE had been banking on SEA moving over..but as their ping is worse to OCE than it is to JP...they didnt. And they wont. Very few moved their mains over to OCE................and it shows

[Supersnow845]

Kujata 243,308

as opposed to

Bismarck 52,282
Ravana 63,729
Sephirot 70,879
Sophia 79,431
Zurvan 45,940

SE had been banking on SEA moving over..but as their ping is worse to OCE than it is to JP...they didnt. And they wont. Very few moved their mains over to OCE................and it shows

No wonder people don’t like long relic steps, they don’t have time to do relics around spending time constantly missing the point on the forums

[AwesomeJr44]

No wonder people don’t like long relic steps, they don’t have time to do relics around spending time constantly missing the point on the forums

You sir, are based.

[VelKallor]

Wow materia lost what 500 people and most of those 500 people went on pause, almost nobody actually left materia in those statics and even more people moved in,, wanna see how many people mana lost in the same time frame, this is a massive mid patch content drought, if any servers didn’t lose people I’d be absolutely shocked

Mana datacentre has access to: all JP worlds across the entire datacentre.

OCE has access to: NONE. There is no world travel outside of OCE. Not to EU JP or NA, so it is isolated and totally cut off from everyone else. Concomitant to that fact, OCE cant afford to lose ANYONE,

The fact is with the garbage MB, no crafters, a falling population and the resultant inability of players to enjoy content in a timely manner, people are LEAVING. I had to wait 3 hours to do Tower of Zot. THREE HOURS as there was no one online and I was told "theres a two hour window to do those" - if I cant play on a world that can provide a healthy playerbase to do content when I WANT TO, then there is no need for me to be there.

I dont have that issue on Kujata.

Stable in a content drought means slight reduction, these stats aren’t saying what you think they are saying

Deny it all you like. I will restate what I said earlier, the people on Materia are ALTS, NOT mains. ALTS. The mains are back on their home worlds because SE hasnt provided any kind of real incentive for them to abandon their communities and FCs and houses, which they wont do for obvious reasons.

Individual worlds and small losses dont matter when you can world travel to a dozen others that have massive populations to draw from for crossworld gameplay.

As it is, Materia is unsustainable in the long term. It is bleeding players..the ONLY solution at this stage is to connect them to either NA / EU...or establish another server in Singapore / Malaysia to enable the SEA population to play.

The marketboards still have prices that would make most people recoil..because you have a very small pool of max level crafters.

As it is now, handwave all you like, players that went to OCE are moving BACK to JP. Call it "anecdotal" and dismiss it all you want...doesnt change the facts.

[xenahawk]

You really think they listen? Take a look at this company over the last several years, it’s literally their game plan…not listening to fans.

So if you truely believe that why bother posting on the forum?