"Just wait until *insert next patch*!"

[Escence]

Yoshi literally admits that they pushed to get XIV into a semi-maintenance mode, so that they could go work on XVI. They wanted XIV to be in a stable spot before moving on.

I mean they're coming back obviously, but we can definitely feel how it's impacted the evolution of XIV these past 4 years. Or the lack of it.

Part of my fear stems from them even being okay with this, because if this is a thing that they just do, then what's to stop them from continuing to work on other main-lines or larger side projects while neglecting XIV and just giving us the B team for the next 10 years.

Yeah because of that game feel pretty bare currently which I would say it was not a smart decision to have the dev team work on two projects by putting XIV in "maintenance mode". This does not help address the core issue that affects the game on top of that it tells square that it ok to keep this type of development is ok which I say it not because like you said for their "Ten Year" plan we could be only getting a skeleton crew instead of patch coming out to the recent for months to now we have to wait five, six or seven months just to receive some content.

[Supersnow845]

I think one of the big things that’s appearing annoying with the current patch content is there appears to be a disconnect between where the playerbase is and what the content is

I’m gonna leave out island sanctuary here because I think we all agree it’s kinda failed content in that it doesn’t do anything, it’s just a materia printer because you clicked on 3 menus the discord bot told you to

As for casual content EW gave us variant dungeons and a new deep dungeon, variant dungeons are cool but don’t really do anything, there is really no reason to repeat them and they kinda just exist, the deep dungeon is better but they didn’t really innovate on anything, it’s just another deep dungeon and unless you are one of the few who solos dungeons they aren’t really grindable, do we basically gave up Bozja/eureka which were endlessly grindable due to their horizontal progression to get POTD 3.0 and a dead on arrival new dungeon type

As for raiders raiders are actually doing well this expansion since we got 2 ultimates, savage, criterion and criterion savage (though the last 2 have a horrible reward structure)

So for the very large proportion of people that sit between “expert is the most engaging content of my day” and “I spend every waking moment progging TOP” we have basically lost all repeatable content this expansion leaving everything feeling boring and empty

[Striker44]

Yoshi literally admits that they pushed to get XIV into a semi-maintenance mode, so that they could go work on XVI. They wanted XIV to be in a stable spot before moving on.

I mean they're coming back obviously, but we can definitely feel how it's impacted the evolution of XIV these past 4 years. Or the lack of it.

Part of my fear stems from them even being okay with this, because if this is a thing that they just do, then what's to stop them from continuing to work on other main-lines or larger side projects while neglecting XIV and just giving us the B team for the next 10 years.

ITT - someone who doesn't know what "maintenance mode" means but just likes blindly throwing the phrase around. It's amusing when the claim gets contradicted by the poster's very own next sentence...

[Raven2014]

It does not render his quitting invalid (though for how long remains to be seen, and even if it's not "forever" still doesn't render the loss of interest as invalidated), although I guess it's probably as good of a "gotcha" moment as you're going to get on him, if that's all you're looking for. I suppose it's all about the little victories when there's not much else to strive for in this social mmo experience called Final Fantasy XIV.

First, maybe it's just me, but I think there is a different between quitting the game and taking a break from the game.

Second ... I was the one who explained WHY he can still post after quiting the game, so you really quoting and comprehending the wrong person here. Secondly, even if I was playing a "gotcha" moment ... aren't you doing the same? Context matter, specifically it's about this post:

Quitting FF14 was the best decision I made. I'm still here checking the forums for my daily entertainment, but I've been having a blast with other games and I wouldn't touch 6.35 with a ten foot pole.

I mean ... I regularly take break from the game to play other things. This year alone I had took a week break for Star Ocean, and another 3 week break (when I actually unsubed) to play Xenoblade 3, I certainly didn't announce my break in the dramatic faction.

Also, this post came from one of the "chronic complainer" who literally complain about everything. It's not about being dismissive, but he's the type that some of us wonder "why are you still here". And now he just openly admit he has more fun complaining on the forum rather than playing the game ... like dude, you can't say it's unreasonable for people poking fun at such a statement. In fact, it would be unreasonable to think people just gonna let such comment slide.

Like, maybe if FF14 were a job, I could understand where he was coming from. But this is a game, it blows my mind how people prefer to be miserable about it rather than enjoying it. So I legit hope this is his final "I quit" post, not because I want to dismiss him (ok maybe a little bit of that), but the main reason would be I just think it's a good decision from a mental health point of view. Because that specific post above is a legit cause of concern.

[R041]

ITT - someone who doesn't know what "maintenance mode" means but just likes blindly throwing the phrase around. It's amusing when the claim gets contradicted by the poster's very own next sentence...

"Maintenance Mode" doesn't inherently mean it's end of life. It just means it's in a state where no major changes will be occurring. Major Development is slowed so that the main team can focus elsewhere without incident.

The product can be picked up at any point after the fact for growth prioritization. Just as XI is in Maintenance Mode, it could be at some point expanded on with priority. But that's unlikely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maintenance_mode
In the world of software development, maintenance mode refers to a point in a computer program's life when it has reached all of its goals and is generally considered to be "complete" and bug-free.


https://www.gameinformer.com/feature...d-ff16-isnt-as

“And we knew right off the bat that it was going to be a very difficult thing. [The opportunity came] at a point in time when we were working on Final Fantasy XIV to grow the game. And understanding that at the same time, to also create another game, that’s going to be very challenging. What we did was prioritized Final Fantasy XIV and made sure that we could grow it to a point that we were satisfied. And that’s why for so long, while XVI development was happening, it was happening with a very small team because we wanted to finish on XIV until we got to the point we wanted to get to.

Anyway, I'm not saying it's in full Maintenance Mode, but it's definitely in a "Don't make any big decisions" mode. Because we know Yoshi can't 100% focus on both. We kinda have to live with that fact.

We've basically been stuck in the 'Stable Version' of XIV for the past 3 years. lol

As opposed to WoW, who's been making some pretty bold core game-loop changes.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Just wait till Patch 6.4!
Because that is likely when they will conclude Pandemonium, which has been a Great 8-Man Raid Series.

Sorry ya'll arnt enjoying the game like other people.
Not everyone will be happy or satisfied, thems the Breaks.
Be pretty funny if 7.0 turns into everything that will make ya'll happy, but then many people will hate it XD

[Vahlnir]

Just wait till Patch 6.4!
Because that is likely when they will conclude Pandemonium, which has been a Great 8-Man Raid Series.

Sorry ya'll arnt enjoying the game like other people.
Not everyone will be happy or satisfied, thems the Breaks.
Be pretty funny if 7.0 turns into everything that will make ya'll happy, but then many people will hate it XD

I'm cautiously optimistic about whether they will stick the landing with the current raid series' story. I really hope they do. Haven't enjoyed a raid series story like this for a long, long time now. Eden seemed like it could have gone some great places, but it fell flat with me. Some people liked it though and that's fine. I did not. No comment on the other part of your post, however. lol

[poptarts12]

"Maintenance Mode" doesn't inherently mean it's end of life. It just means it's in a state where no major changes will be occurring. Major Development is slowed so that the main team can focus elsewhere without incident.

The product can be picked up at any point after the fact for growth prioritization. Just as XI is in Maintenance Mode, it could be at some point expanded on with priority. But that's unlikely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maintenance_mode
In the world of software development, maintenance mode refers to a point in a computer program's life when it has reached all of its goals and is generally considered to be "complete" and bug-free.


https://www.gameinformer.com/feature...d-ff16-isnt-as


Anyway, I'm not saying it's in full Maintenance Mode, but it's definitely in a "Don't make any big decisions" mode. Because we know Yoshi can't 100% focus on both. We kinda have to live with that fact.

We've basically been stuck in the 'Stable Version' of XIV for the past 3 years. lol

As opposed to WoW, who's been making some pretty bold core game-loop changes.

WoW is actually putting effort into their newest xpac. Next patch is giving players a new zone, more outdoor content, on top of raids and mythic+ dungeons. All because they've listened to the criticism their player base leveled against them all last year. In contrast, the FF14 player base is cult-like in their defense of the game. It's impossible to even talk about the terrible state of EW patches without being met "Well ACKSHULLY." If these people were around back in 1.0, the game wouldn't exist today.

[Stormpeaks]

WoW is actually putting effort into their newest xpac. Next patch is giving players a new zone, more outdoor content, on top of raids and mythic+ dungeons. All because they've listened to the criticism their player base leveled against them all last year. In contrast, the FF14 player base is cult-like in their defense of the game. It's impossible to even talk about the terrible state of EW patches without being met "Well ACKSHULLY." If these people were around back in 1.0, the game wouldn't exist today.

This right there is the biggest issue with FFXIV.

[Denji]

WoW is actually putting effort into their newest xpac. Next patch is giving players a new zone, more outdoor content, on top of raids and mythic+ dungeons. All because they've listened to the criticism their player base leveled against them all last year. In contrast, the FF14 player base is cult-like in their defense of the game. It's impossible to even talk about the terrible state of EW patches without being met "Well ACKSHULLY." If these people were around back in 1.0, the game wouldn't exist today.

wow right now is unplayable because spells keep getting blocked by tree branches in dungeons and because every enemy has its own cast bar on screen the display is incomprehensible. this is well documented and a pretty sore point for a lot of wow players rn.