"Just wait until *insert next patch*!"

[IkaraGreydancer]

Oh shit, I'm sorry - Yoshi, forgive me for taking potshots at some random white knight. You'll listen to my complaints still right? No? You throw all complaints away if I was a meanie head? Welp.

It's not beneath me. lol

Forgot...being happy with xiv makes you a white knight here. Neither you nor anyone else could quote n pinpoint me ever being a real whight knight. You simply dont like my views. I dont agree with you but id never call you a hater cause you arent. But youll call me a WK at the drop of a hat. And again, you wonder why devs don't listen to yall. You're part of your own problem.

[R041]

Forgot...being happy with xiv makes you a white knight here. Neither you nor anyone else could quote n pinpoint me ever being a real whight knight. You simply dont like my views. I dont agree with you but id never call you a hater cause you arent. But youll call me a WK at the drop of a hat. And again, you wonder why devs don't listen to yall. You're part of your own problem.

No, you can defend and even enjoy XIV. It's this comment that makes you a white knight with 0 empathy for legitimate grievance.

So let me get this right. People hate the state of xiv rn. They complain everyday to no avail (according to them). They claim the devs aren't listening yet they still continue to complain despite (according to them) being ignored. This means they are wasting their time per their own admittance. Others step in n try to explain the maybe it's best you leave if you're not getting what you want to send a message. These people are called gatekeepers n white knights (wrongfully mind you). They continue to complain and the cycle continues. They continue to pay to be upset n ignore the fact they are indeed funding what they don't like (which no sane human would do). Even going so far as to a pay for a game they aren't playing just to talk in the forums which as we said earlier amounts to a waste of time. So they're paying to waste their time once again...

Tell me...how tf do yall justify that? Cause that makes no sense to me and is why some people clown on you guys.

You're just telling people to quit without sharing their complaints. You're asking for them to be silenced because you can't take the noise.

[IkaraGreydancer]

No, you can defend and even enjoy XIV. It's this comment that makes you a white knight with 0 empathy for legitimate grievance.





You're just telling people to quit without sharing their complaints. You're asking for them to be silenced because you can't take the noise.

Again you aren't reading. I've EVEN TOLD people to make their grievances known. I'm not one of these people that tells folks to shut up n enjoy the game. I address specific individuals who say things like "the devs don't listen". How in the world do I have no empathy when I've said MANY times IF words aren't working try to get your point across with money. This is all to help those who feel they're being ignored. I say this because I care about possibly helping you be heard. That is the main goal and I've made that known numerous times. I don't go around labeling you all as haters, even people who do nothing but complain. Need proof check my post history. These labels don't solve anything, they create division. I've even said my suggestions arent surefire ways to change things but they're proven to work in other mediums, even 1.0. Don't fucking tell me I don't care cause that's a load of bs.

Where in any of what you quoted has me telling that specific group im talking about to quit? I asked how it's justified because adding all that up doesn't make sense. People see this from specific people and they chose to clown on them like Aveyond for example. I'm pointing it out and explaining why that response comes about. I'm not asking for anyone to be silenced. That has never come out of my mouth even once. That's bull you made up in your own head. Again check my post history I've always said make your grievances known first before anything and only IF thats not working go to other methods one being money.

This is not the logic of a white knight. And if you think so you're beyond convincing

[R041]

Again you aren't reading. I've EVEN TOLD people to make their grievances known. I'm not one of these people that tells folks to shut up n enjoy the game. I address specific individuals who say things like "the devs don't listen". How in the world do I have no empathy when I've said MANY times IF words aren't working try to get your point across with money. This is all to help those who feel they're being ignored. I say this because I care about possibly helping you be heard. That is the main goal and I've made that known numerous times. I don't go around labeling you all as haters, even people who do nothing but complain. Need proof check my post history. These labels don't solve anything, they create division. I've even said my suggestions arent surefire ways to change things but they're proven to work in other mediums, even 1.0. Don't fucking tell me I don't care cause that's a load of bs.

Where in any of what you quoted has me telling that specific group im talking about to quit? I asked how it's justified because adding all that up doesn't make sense. People see this from specific people and they chose to clown on them like Aveyond for example. I'm pointing it out and explaining why that response comes about. I'm not asking for anyone to be silenced. That has never come out of my mouth even once. That's bull you made up in your own head. Again check my post history I've always said make your grievances known first before anything and only IF thats not working go to other methods one being money.

This is not the logic of a white knight. And if you think so you're beyond convincing

It's because we know they listen in general, but often don't listen when it matters most. If they didn't listen at all, then we wouldn't have had the changes we've gotten the past decade and you know that.

The only way we can even provide any feedback on these forums is by being Subbed - So of course you're gonna call those people out. But you don't legitimately know if they are going to quit when the month sub is over, so don't make that assumption either way. Your scenario is a catch-22 for those of us that do give our grievances. I've told you that I just cancelled 3 subs. So I'm already proving to you that I'm not just crying to cry. I know that it needs feedback AND a sub drop.

A White Knight does not get to determine that they are not a White Knight. Sorry. You can't just say "Not it!". lol
You've done all but listen and understand. You just tell people to leave, even if you think the information is valuable - You provide it in a weird and toxic way.

Let's just end it at that, because we're not making any more progress, and it's a waste of both our time anyway.

Besides, I'm not the only one crying on these forums, you have a lot more to worry about. It'll be like trying to play whack-a-mole for a week.

[IkaraGreydancer]

It's because we know they listen in general, but often don't listen when it matters most. If they didn't listen at all, then we wouldn't have had the changes we've gotten the past decade and you know that.

The only way we can even provide any feedback on these forums is by being Subbed - So of course you're gonna call those people out. But you don't legitimately know if they are going to quit when the month sub is over, so don't make that assumption either way. Your scenario is a catch-22 for those of us that do give our grievances. I've told you that I just cancelled 3 subs. So I'm already proving to you that I'm not just crying to cry. I know that it needs feedback AND a sub drop.

A White Knight does not get to determine that they are not a White Knight. Sorry. You can't just say "Not it!". lol
You've done all but listen and understand. You just tell people to leave, even if you think the information is valuable - You provide it in a weird and toxic way.

Let's just end it at that, because we're not making any more progress, and it's a waste of both our time anyway. Go play Variant, like you said you do.

If I've done all but listen and understand you're no better than I am. But unlike you I won't throw false labels around and act righteous. Never once said you're "crying just to cry" so there's no proof needed there. I have no idea if you unsubbed or not nor would I ask for proof. Stuff like that is why I say you're perception of me is the issue. I'm not toxic at all, you perceive me to be. I've only ever advocated for dropping a sub so long as feedback was given prior. Your issue is you don't like me as a person n how I speak. Which oddly enough...in the end you've done what I suggested anyways. So what was the point of any of this?

But I digress