"Just wait until *insert next patch*!"

[IkaraGreydancer]

assuming you started in 2019, then you are a new player compared to me.

So listen, vast amount of types of players complained and complained, just like you are describing and they actually led to some consideration and changes to the game.

So of these complainers got the game to where it is - so we can agree complaining can lead to change in the game, to me a lot of of this was for the worse for the game.

Some of us or rather many are not happy so we are voicing a complaint to get things changed because its actually happened in the past.

If you are new to the game, then you would of entered into the game whilst the changes already happened and not felt them as much as me and a few others have done.

So tell me this, to those that complained years ago and got their wishes implemented in some way, what do you say to that?

Sorry but thats not how that works. I'm not a new player compared to you at all. I was here when tp was still a thing. When stuff like aggro management was still a concern. When healers had more dps options (i miss my Whm Aero III). When not putting up protect at the start of content was a problem lol.
That card doesn't work on me. Sorry

I've been here for these changes n seen the shift personally so that whole point about not feeling it as much is null n void. And if you really payed attention to my post I'm referring to people who claim devs don't listen at all which is the view many folks here who complain take. Either those people are indeed wasting their time per their own statements OR they're lying n they know devs do listen and hope one day they'll be heard. If it's not the former then they outta kill that notion. That's not even taking into account those that complain n go "not my job to make suggestions on how to make things better". None of this actually helps. If you TRUELY feel the devs don't listen at all the rational decision is to leave n stop funding