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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niimura View Post
    Half of the answers in this topic are the reason why Lalafells are tired about stuff like this: They ask for more respect and all they get are puns/jokes about their size... and then some of you come here and say that you "dont understand why they're upset", yea, sure pal.

    Some people want "helmets" on Vieras, others want to unlink the horns of Au Ra from their Faces preset, others wanted male viera to be playable, Hrothgars/Vieras want more hairstyles available, etc... near all these things, to have the name of an item changed to please those that feel demeaned by it, its not only the easiest problem of them all to fix, but also the less superficial one.

    Besides, some people here says that "they have no problem with the chair name", thats awesome, no really - its awesome. It means you're having fun with the game. I'm sure if you're okay with an item called "Lalafell Lifter", you will also be okay with this item having any other name as well, because if this chair name doesnt impact you, good for you! But others are tired of stuff like this.
    This is The response I wish people would realize. Everyone has something they'd like to have fixed or changed for the better. Mine just happened to be waking up and seeing an item I felt insulted by, even if only by name or appearance. Intensified by the fact that lalafell are always the butt of jokes and harassment, and an item labeled specifically lalafellin and looking like a baby highchair didn't rub right... When I saw more people on social media complaining about it as well, one would think well why not bring it up to Feedback on the forums where the devs can see our concern?

    But nah. Our requests are seen as "too much" though because... it's so easy to pick on lalafell and call them jokes. As demonstrated by this thread and attacking for something that doesn't really affect them. And wonder why we're upset.

    I'm glad some people like it and want to use it, but it's the same thing as other items/glams that have had controversy around them. Just asking for a little change that doesn't feel downright insulting.
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    Anyways this is what it boils down to:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niimura View Post
    I'm sure if you're okay with an item called "Lalafell Lifter", you will also be okay with this item having any other name as well, because if this chair name doesnt impact you, good for you! But others are tired of stuff like this.
    I understand the design with it looking like a high chair but is the name really that bad? I'd understand if it was called a booster seat. What name would you give it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    I understand the design with it looking like a high chair but is the name really that bad? I'd understand if it was called a booster seat. What name would you give it?
    In my opinion I believe that anything along "high chair" is okay, everyone agrees that it looks like one.
    They can even keep the "lift" part as long as it is not tied to lalafellin people.
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    "Maybe people just like being humans"

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    I'm gonna preface this to try and nip anything in the bud. Everyone's more than welcome to their opinion on the chair, etc. This is just me wanting to add my voice. Your thoughts on the matter are valid whether I agree with them or not.

    Honestly, as a long time lalafell player, I absolutely love this chair. It's cute, it's a funny tongue in cheek, poking fun kinda thing like the cat tower. It dyes well, it's really cute, and I'm on the end of the spectrum where if I saw it in someone's house I'd be like 'Yo dibs on the lala chair'. People who get too offended on one side or the other really need to take a break and think about what they're getting upset over and have a chill pill. Like I agree, we should have some more serious lalafellian furniture, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with this chair, nor do I personally see any reason it would need to be redesigned or name changed. Some of the arguments against the chair, vaild. But really, at the end of the day it's a cliche adage but 'It's not that deep'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethrya View Post
    Good to know having the expressive range of a wet paper bag like some other races in this game is the only way to be an adult and being exuberant makes you a baby. Great logic there.
    LOL wot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethrya View Post
    One of the reasons I enjoy the story world as much as I do is because the world actually does treat them like anyone else. You don't hear story NPCs throwing around casual infantilizing language toward lalafells. Nobody offers them a booster seat or a kiddie toy or treats them like they're fundamentally incapable of complex tasks or difficult decisions.
    Tataru is basically the little sister of the Scions. She has her own story moment in MSQ where she tries to be strong and helpful like the rest of the Scions but fails when she realizes she's not meant for battle and eventually discovers where she belongs with her own talent.
    Pipin is the little adopted son of Raubahn who he also looks up to and wants to try and be like.
    Krile is the new young recruit of the Scions
    Lolorito Nanarito looks and acts like the type of villain who would get a woman tied up and placed ontop of a railroad track
    The Dwarfs in Shadowbringer were two rival tribes that were nothing but comedy for that entire expansion. Nearly every Lalafell from the first had a joke to crack
    Their names are like nursery rhymes
    Lalafell emotes are also a great example of 'child like behavior'
    What more proof do you want that Lalafells were meant to be a joke and playable children without being actual children? The childish jokes might not be as obvious as giving lalafells candy but the child behavior and vibe is there. It's why no one likes lewding Lalafells because the entire game itself gives off that vibe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethrya View Post
    I also have to somewhat disagree with the comparison elsewhere of "it's the same as getting catnip as a Miqot'e, it's clearly a joke." There are no cat people in real life. There are diminutive adults in real life. And even if they were the same thing, it's really unkind to basically tell someone they signed up for and should accept bullying for playing a certain race in a video game. One should try to be a better person than that, whether or not anything will be done about this particular piece of furniture.
    Well it's a good thing this is a Final FANTASY game. Not rl so idk what rl has to do with any of this. . . Also no one is bullying you in this thread. People are laughing because of how childish the complaint is(no pun intended)
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    You people are absolutely unreal lmao.

    Throwing a tantrum over nothing definitely won't help you be perceived as not-babies you know.
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    LMFAO this has got to be the funniest complaint about this game I've ever read
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    It's just a virtual chair. You are not forced to use it or like it. But it's not that serious. Take a deep breath.
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    This is seriously not a big deal.

    The amount of people getting up in arms over this is insane.

    It's one thing to be upset because you don't like the design, or the color, or the fact that it can't be dyed. But there are people who are legit throwing hissy fits on Twitter because apparently it's "racist", "demeaning" and "infantilizing" players. Just... really? It's a freakin' piece of virtual furniture. It's okay, I promise. It's a joke and it's fine. No one is trying to take the piss out of us Lala players. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Square Enix having a little fun at our expense because they are in on the joke. The reaction to this is blown hugely out of proportion.

    Some players really, really need to grow some thicker skin. I've been playing as a Lala for years. I've seen and heard it all, and most of it has been directed at me at least once. What do I do? Get over it. Yeah, sometimes it does bother me, if I'm already upset that day and sometimes I'm having a more emotional day than other days - however at the end of the day it's just a game. The amount of Lala "hatred" is greatly exaggerated, and when it does happen people need to learn to not be so defensive and upset over such trivial matters.
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