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    I also want to point out that Lalafells are meant to be a joke. A lot of cutscenes express them like cartoon characters. Even the villains have that cartoon villainy feel to them. I'm sorry you feel your Lalafells are being 'bullied' but that's the lore. You picked a race that's meant to be cute and silly and then complain about it. Either way, it doesn't mean you can't RP or play your lalafells differently. Go ahead and make them serious adult Rated-R characters. So in the end you picked a race that was literally made to be a certain way from the gecko so of course there are going to be items that represent that. Sorry to drop this bomb on you all but I advice getting over it and just nicely ask for better things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhudusQestir View Post
    I also want to point out that Lalafells are meant to be a joke. A lot of cutscenes express them like cartoon characters. Even the villains have that cartoon villainy feel to them. I'm sorry you feel your Lalafells are being 'bullied' but that's the lore. You picked a race that's meant to be cute and silly and then complain about it. Either way, it doesn't mean you can't RP or play your lalafells differently. Go ahead and make them serious adult Rated-R characters. So in the end you picked a race that was literally made to be a certain way from the gecko so of course there are going to be items that represent that. Sorry to drop this bomb on you all but I advice getting over it and just nicely ask for better things.
    I have to say, when I play Au Ra I love it when my friends call me lizzie, lizzer, liz, etc!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimin View Post
    I have to say, when I play Au Ra I love it when my friends call me lizzie, lizzer, liz, etc!
    SE should release a furniture called "Miqo'te Tree" and make it a scratching post. They should release a miqo'te litter box while they're at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhudusQestir View Post
    I also want to point out that Lalafells are meant to be a joke. A lot of cutscenes express them like cartoon characters. Even the villains have that cartoon villainy feel to them. I'm sorry you feel your Lalafells are being 'bullied' but that's the lore. You picked a race that's meant to be cute and silly and then complain about it. Either way, it doesn't mean you can't RP or play your lalafells differently. Go ahead and make them serious adult Rated-R characters. So in the end you picked a race that was literally made to be a certain way from the gecko so of course there are going to be items that represent that. Sorry to drop this bomb on you all but I advice getting over it and just nicely ask for better things.
    You lost me at "Meant to be a joke"

    Krile, Nanamo, Pipin, Papalymo, Lolorito, Yuyuhase, Lamitt, etc... they're all jokes right? Have you really been playing this game?

    No one's complaining that they can't be cute. We're complaining about being treated like children. And the "Lore" is that they're adults. Plain and simple.
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    You guys seem a little mad about this, maybe you need to take a time out and think about how its just a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyshiro View Post
    You lost me at "Meant to be a joke"

    Krile, Nanamo, Pipin, Papalymo, Lolorito, Yuyuhase, Lamitt, etc... they're all jokes right? Have you really been playing this game?

    No one's complaining that they can't be cute. We're complaining about being treated like children. And the "Lore" is that they're adults. Plain and simple.
    But yet they hold that cute adorable feel still, don't they? I said you can make a Lalafell a serious character if you want like SE did. They don't always have to be a joke but they can be and they're the perfect race for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhudusQestir View Post
    I also want to point out that Lalafells are meant to be a joke. A lot of cutscenes express them like cartoon characters. Even the villains have that cartoon villainy feel to them. I'm sorry you feel your Lalafells are being 'bullied' but that's the lore. You picked a race that's meant to be cute and silly and then complain about it. Either way, it doesn't mean you can't RP or play your lalafells differently. Go ahead and make them serious adult Rated-R characters. So in the end you picked a race that was literally made to be a certain way from the gecko so of course there are going to be items that represent that. Sorry to drop this bomb on you all but I advice getting over it and just nicely ask for better things.
    There's actually plenty of (very funny) in-game Lalafell comedy that revolves around their size (being too small they're preyed on by monsters, so small they fit in a travel bag or cooking pot, being compared to potatoes, being catapulted onto treetops, general slapstick) but so far zero about them being childlike or babies - that is not lore accurate and only seems to come from very annoying people.

    It doesn't get clearer than this: it could be a funny joke if Lalafell players were not discriminated in-game when attempting to present as adults. Yet they are, so it's just punching down and perpetuating a harmful stereotype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatsuru View Post
    There's actually plenty of (very funny) in-game Lalafell comedy that revolves around their size (being too small they're preyed on by monsters, so small they fit in a travel bag or cooking pot, being compared to potatoes, being catapulted onto treetops, general slapstick) but so far zero about them being childlike or babies - that is not lore accurate and only seems to come from very annoying people.

    It doesn't get clearer than this: it could be a funny joke if Lalafell players were not discriminated in-game when attempting to present as adults. Yet they are, so it's just punching down and perpetuating a harmful stereotype.
    Here you go. This was mentioned in page 3 already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhudusQestir View Post
    Here you go. This was mentioned in page 3 already.
    It was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tatsuru View Post
    It's exactly what it says on the text you posted: a Lalafell can be of virtually any age and non-Lalafells will have trouble telling. What's lore accurate about them having "child-like countenance" (which is at most neoteny) isn't that Lalafells must be children: it just means non-Lalafells have the potential to be terrible people about it.
    Find us a joke about adult Lalafells being treated as babies in-game prior to this, then we can talk about lore accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhudusQestir View Post
    I also want to point out that Lalafells are meant to be a joke. A lot of cutscenes express them like cartoon characters. Even the villains have that cartoon villainy feel to them. I'm sorry you feel your Lalafells are being 'bullied' but that's the lore.
    Good to know having the expressive range of a wet paper bag like some other races in this game is the only way to be an adult and being exuberant makes you a baby. Great logic there.

    You're playing a different version of FFXIV than some of the rest of us if you really think the lore supports lalafell as only jokes and not actual adult people. One of the reasons I enjoy the story world as much as I do is because the world actually does treat them like anyone else. You don't hear story NPCs throwing around casual infantilizing language toward lalafells. Nobody offers them a booster seat or a kiddie toy or treats them like they're fundamentally incapable of complex tasks or difficult decisions. We see them in every role in society: laborers, merchants, warriors, engineers, nobility, sorcery. There's a very obvious couple that is one lalafell and one taller person in Labyrinthos where they talk about their love surviving the Final Days. The playerbase deciding something is a joke does not make it so in the lore.

    I also have to somewhat disagree with the comparison elsewhere of "it's the same as getting catnip as a Miqot'e, it's clearly a joke." There are no cat people in real life. There are diminutive adults in real life. And even if they were the same thing, it's really unkind to basically tell someone they signed up for and should accept bullying for playing a certain race in a video game. One should try to be a better person than that, whether or not anything will be done about this particular piece of furniture.
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