A game for 2 year olds.

[Iscah]

EDIT: Although the Adventurous Ambystoma is much cuter, in my opinion.

Axolotls are adorable. Give me all the Ambystoma merch please. It's not over-trying to be cute, it just sits there and is inherently cute.

[RobynDaBank]

Some people won't be happy unless everything is grimdark and we're all eating corpse starch.

Burgers and buuz are for 2 year olds. Now meol, that's REAL man's food!

[hagare]

Burgers and buuz are for 2 year olds. Now meol, that's REAL man's food!

man food indeed

[VelKallor]

Now meol, that's REAL man's food!

Soylent green is made of people.....

[AwesomeJr44]

Some people won't be happy unless everything is grimdark and we're all eating corpse starch.

There are probably also some people who won't be happy unless everything is childish, bright, and simple to the point of insulting our intelligence.

I've never understood why the desire to leave one extreme is always interpreted as a desire to sprint towards the other. Someone wanting the story to be competent and logical does not mean they want the story to be grimdark. (although those are not necessarily mutually exclusive, some people might genuinely want that as well) Right now, the story is definitely leaning towards one extreme, that being the extremely safe, simple, and childish side of the storytelling spectrum. A good balance between the two is the best place to be, and we need some seriousness to balance out the silliness.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

There are probably also some people who won't be happy unless everything is childish, bright, and simple to the point of insulting our intelligence.

I've never understood why the desire to leave one extreme is always interpreted as a desire to sprint towards the other. Someone wanting the story to be competent and logical does not mean they want the story to be grimdark. (although those are not necessarily mutually exclusive, some people might genuinely want that as well) Right now, the story is definitely leaning towards one extreme, that being the extremely safe, simple, and childish side of the storytelling spectrum. A good balance between the two is the best place to be, and we need some seriousness to balance out the silliness.

Not sure about that when half the playerbase still think there are good guys and bad guys regarding the end of the Ancients, and so on. FFXIV's story is not extremely safe, simple and childish, it just doesn't appeal to some of the playerbase, that resort to using that argument instead of "I just don't like this". I'm not saying it's a masterpiece either, it's just... what you can expect from a "standard" video game. There are way poorer narratives that are praised by people, way better narratives that are despised... It's just average, and it doesn't really need to be deeper.

Except if you're talking about loporrits, which are meant to be a breather in an otherwise darker expansion that what we had until now (except for HW, which tried hard to be grim, but where writers constantly backed off after each patch because they didn't want to be too dark I guess), and beast tribes, which... always have been dumb.

Really, I do think you're all way too invested in the game, if you really think it's that big of a deal.

[Zsolen]

Even ARR was darker than Endwalker.

[BRVV]

(...) Really, I do think you're all way too invested in the game, if you really think it's that big of a deal.

1. FFXIV's story is praised by many to be one of the best ones, here you defend it as a "standard" story. Interesting how this happens when someone takes a more detailed look on the story and doesn't hand wave it
2. What poorer narratives and also What-aboutism
3. How is the story not extremly save and childish? No one of importance can ever be harmed anymore, even mass murderers (Zenos, Mommy Crystal, Meteion) get a methaporical hug and are forgiven. Killed half the universe? Here, have your favorite flower. There also wasn't anything more serious going on in EW. It's just show. What did the "Final Days" actually do? It's like a children's show telling them not to be afraid of the dark.
4. So the loporrits are a breather... from what though? Honest question. Do we get an EXPAC and then get "breather" "relax" "chill" content for 2 years?
5. We are on the forum. We all are a little too invested in the game. You too. Most players wouldn't have written that much text

[Atelier-Bagur]

Like that one ign guy said about sonic.


FFXIV was never good.

[Doc_Seraph]

For toddlers kupo <3 they can dps with a summoner by setting up three buttons kupo <3 just tell them to spam 3 buttons..in normals they still gonna top parses kupo <3


Or Machinist can with some dps loss of course take just about every ability and slam it in to one macro (again loss of dps) but it works for normals etc..


jk kupo <3