Deep Dungeons: Floor 31 and Beyond Fixed Parties. Why???

[Hanayumi]

Dont mind it being part fixed and part matched party, I just think 30 is too short... At the very least it shouldve been up to like 50, 30 for leveling, 20 for matchmaking farming with average drop rates, and then last 50 for the challenge as a fixed party or solo with higher drop rates.

[Toutatis]

Looking forward to trying out with the matched party, wonder if NPC aid for the fixed party in this one and the other two deep dungeons in the future. I am more of a casual player. I do not do extreme content. It would be fun to do the fixed party with NPCs.

I don’t see how they could add npc support as these dungeons involve strategy with the use and management of potions (we once wiped on HoH floor 99 because the tank got nervous and burned all the potions on lesser mobs), stuns and interrupts, dealing with traps and mobs. Time management can also be an issue. At high levels, the difficulty level changes, there are more mobs, some walk around in groups, some have special mechanics and you either want to avoid them or approach them at a specific time, in a specific way and/or at a specific location or you can be one shotted, even from afar. They are not dungeons where you can just go in, pull wall to wall and wipe everything. You wouldn’t want Thancred rushing to a Gorilla at the wrong time and pulling 3 chimeras and a few worms in the process. Btw, the new dungeon quickly goes up in difficulty after lvl 30. I encourage you to use PF.

On another topic, I’d love the ability to start PotD at lvl 101. 150 levels is a lot and 51-100 are a snoozefest at 99/99 aetherpool. As the previous poster said, DC is a nightmare to deal with and a constant fear. Being kicked out from the dungeon for a second disconnect that puts you back on the loading screen and having to go back to 1 when you are at lvl 100+ is discouraging. If at least we could get back in at the same spot if the reconnect happens almost immediately. Even if death by mob likely awaits me because I dc‘d at the wrong spot I’d take it. A chance is better than no chance.

[Hopebot]

To be Honest with this specifically. I wouldn't mind a fixed NPC party from at least 1-10, (if you are doing it through the group version), The first 10 floors solo are easy but as a dps with no heals, the first boss still isn't possible without the HoT potion, (It might be different for other dps, but for those without large heals, I don't think you can do it. Even with strength/steel and vuln, I could only manage a little under half boss hp playing perfectly.

[Amarande]

Yeah, the ability to start at 101 would solve a lot of things.

Hell, even extending matchmade up to 120 or maybe even 150 (reserving the best Accursed Hoard bracket for fixed parties still) might be feasible, although queue times would probably be too long to make it worthwhile - and honestly, I'm not sure extending automatic queuing to more content in XIV - or really even any game at this point - is the way. It makes gaming more convenient but far less enjoyable in the long run, as but a single path is open to the random PUG group, that of false worship ... er, simply treating the event as a mere group task to be efficiently completed and moved on from, like any other job. A path which leads to enervation and death (at least, that of the enjoyability of the content concerned ...).

Honestly, POTD does not really show teeth until the last quartile, especially 180+. You can go in with a group that has never been past 100 and as long as everyone is paying reasonable attention (and no one DCs, which honestly is the other problem with POTD's length, because Deep Dungeons are absolutely awful when it comes to handling DCs since Solo players are treated as having wiped and even in a group it habitually desyncs the run resulting in, at best, being able to finish the present floor set only before savefile issues prevent going further), you should be able to at least reach the 180 boss on that first run. Maybe not beat it (especially with the final phase transition being the kind of finicky stuff SE mainly left behind after HW and is IMO honestly more akin to the type of phase transition more often seen in WoW), but at least get there.

[Ardeth]

Then its kind of a waste to even give non fixed party players 30 floors. That can be soloed if its the easiest part of the 100 floor grind.



Just copy and paste the dungeons. Harder version for fixed party and casual version for non fixed party.

I'm personally not lazy, but it just feels better doing content like this for myself with random party members. xD



This is basically all I want. Make it like palace of the dead. Because as it is right now, Eureka Othros is kind of dead to me. :<

To me once I have to go into a party finder the content is dead. I know a lot of people don't have an issue with that, but I do.

[hynaku]

They should have made it 31 to 60 party matching and 61 plus fixed party.