Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[Kolaina]

Skipping a few steps, Grind Fates, Grind Seals GC items, spend like 400K on purchasable only items, spend more if don't got crafters, grind Atma light phase in unsyncable content since it was ARR, Farm Materia & blow through 100s of Materia, Grind tomes Multiple books all unsyncanble content & fates required that could take anywhere between 10 - 1 hour or more to respawn.

No. Not skipping steps at all. I said original. Not upgraded. The very first stage

[Kolaina]

casual mindset.

this game is slowly being ruined by the casual community.

Used to be “hardcore”. Some people don’t got time for that any more. Say casual as if it’s a dirty word. But I’d rather be that than someone no lifeing a game with mundane grinds to feel some sort of accomplishment for wasting time for the sake of wasting time

[Kolaina]

Yes and one that requires an alternative level of effort; not substituting progging a full tier for one day of roulettes

That’s why the relic is always behind. Alternative does not necessitate equal effort. Plus, generally, once a raid group clears, every clear there after is easy. So the difficulty diminishes.

[Supersnow845]

That’s why the relic is always behind. Alternative does not necessitate equal effort. Plus, generally, once a raid group clears, every clear there after is easy. So the difficulty diminishes.

Yes behind because savage is harder, not behind because a relic is worth one day of roulettes, one day of roulettes isn’t even worth an extreme level weapon

[Kolaina]

Yes behind because savage is harder, not behind because a relic is worth one day of roulettes, one day of roulettes isn’t even worth an extreme level weapon

And so it’s behind. Go get your savage weapons if you want your “more difficult” content. Then the relics shouldn’t bother you

[Supersnow845]

And so it’s behind. Go get your savage weapons if you want your “more difficult” content. Then the relics shouldn’t bother you

Somehow “relics are worth more than a day of roulettes” just goes in one ear and out the other ear for you doesn’t it

[Kolaina]

Somehow “relics are worth more than a day of roulettes” just goes in one ear and out the other ear for you doesn’t it

Oh big insult. I read you and I didn’t care. You are complaining something is too easy. I suggested you go take on the harder challenge if you’re so bothered.

1500 tomes. Cry more

[kevin_satron]

Reasons they made it easier to grind
1. They're lazy
2. It requires you to do Manderville questline, that itself can take quite sometime if u havent unlock it. So it also count as "grind"
3. For casual players

Here's my suggestion

For ilv 630 (or any relic that are -5 ilv from savage weapon), you can keep it with current tomestone grind. You can get glowing and dyeable weapon. And then, there should be an option to upgrade it to ilv 635 (same ilv as savage). You can adjust the weapon stats and have 5 materia slot. And the option to upgrade is that, you have to grind it like previous expansions, like fates, old dungeon, old raids, etc. And you dont have to do the optional one to go to the next phase.

[Melorie]

I kinda wish that people stopped saying that people that are casual are the same people that, apparently, if something takes more than a week or a hunt train to get, the game turns, for them, into a "second job" (I'm not sure how these people even considered playing RPGs/MMOs but ok).

A lot of casuals want to play the game and want the game to bring something for them to work towards instead of playing insta-gratification dress-up.

[Velnora]

The weapon isn't even equivalent to a savage weapon, for some inane reason.