Tomestones.. Again.. for a relic..

[MintnHoney]

I'm not.

That's the beauty of the "if" statement; in the event that none of what I said applies, then I suppose it doesn't matter. I do apologize for any undue pressure, however.

What I do question is people complaining there are tome grinds to start with. Because that's what people wanted.

I may be misinterpreting, but I took the thread title to mean that they take issue with having the same tomestone step again for this (as of the date of this post) current step in the relic weapon "grind," and, in the context of potentially feeling like there's little to do in the game at present, in addition to maybe not appreciating being given the same exact mission as a step for creating what should be a pretty important weapon, I don't think it's unreasonable to be dissatisfied.

I agree that a complaint to using tomestones in general would be silly, but I sincerely don't think that's the issue here.

[Kolaina]

And validation is not a commonly used word

Yes it is. Validation. Valid. Validate. Yes it is

[Denji]

Yes it is. Validation. Valid. Validate. Yes it is

no idea what the last posts are and how y'all got to this discussion but i have begun to tell people that i take "that's valid" as sarcasm simply because of its overuse. i'm not even doing it maliciously i just genuinely can't tell anymore.

[Kolaina]

no idea what the last posts are and how y'all got to this discussion but i have begun to tell people that i take "that's valid" as sarcasm simply because of its overuse. i'm not even doing it maliciously i just genuinely can't tell anymore.

Came about over a simple typo. Calidate instead of validate. Buddy says calidate sounds like a word but validate doesn’t as it’s never used. Just to catch you up

[RyuDragnier]

They already tried a compromise with ShB relics. Alternatives outside of Bozja, 1-Time only steps, even having people finally have a use for Blue Mage made the ShB relics some of the easiest and less grindy relics. The results? People still complained the game would have the audacity of having players go out of their way for relics. So now it's logging in, doing a quests for an hour and watching the funny man explode, then gib shiny.

I think that's the main problem here, nothing they do will be "correct". There's no winning here...if they made the tomestone poetics, people would complain. If they made them Causality, people would complain HARDER because that's a 4 week timegate. If they made them FATEs people would rage about having to do them again. If it was AR people would complain about having to do ARs. There is nothing they could do, absolutely NOTHING that wouldn't be ripped apart. This community is the definition of an Unpleasable Fanbase when it comes to the relic grind.

[MintnHoney]

Calidate instead of validate.

For someone who might not be a native English speaker, or someone otherwise unfamiliar to the English language, "validate" may not be a very familiar English word. Especially if they're only used to using English for talking to people for normal conversation, I don't think it would be very natural to use any variation of the word "valid" constantly in conversation, unless you're trying to be captain of the debate team, president of the science club, vice president of the fashion club, or are only talking to customer service representatives.

[Jettinson]

They already tried a compromise with ShB relics. Alternatives outside of Bozja, 1-Time only steps, even having people finally have a use for Blue Mage made the ShB relics some of the easiest and less grindy relics. The results? People still complained the game would have the audacity of having players go out of their way for relics. So now it's logging in, doing a quests for an hour and watching the funny man explode, then gib shiny.

Sad part is that i personally i found ShB very good with the relic in how you wanted to tackle the zone or outside, it still failed because they really didn't work out on the drop\difficulty ratio.

A rant example list with ShB:
-Of course people are goin to pick the HW FATEs over Bozja, they're guaranteed, faster and safer than RNG unless you formed a dedicated party to grind all those mobs + skirmish.
-Of course people are going to spam Crystal Tower vs. Castrum, the latter, back then, was nowhere near inviting to be replayed, it offered poor rewards and you would lose Mettle with possible wipes without gaining anything. Also it only rewarded with... what? 1! No one wanted to queue there, it was so bad that new players couldn't clear it and ended up buffing the rewards including the memory with 5 per clear!
-The 1 time step with HW\SB 24 raid was great imo, the drop rate from the FATEs were abysmal though and only later got improved.
-The Timeworn Artifact is the one i hated the most due to only getting 1 per DR clear and heavy RNG for 10 floor of PotD which might as well not bother unless you are grinding for Aetherpool stats or going for Floor 200. Only later they buffed the amount you get to 3 in DR, it's still bad due to the nature of the duty (waiting 10 minutes with a premade of 8 people for example).

I guess no wonder Square decided to just dump another 1.5k tomes and call it a day, they either do not have people that can help them out with this kind of thing or just can't be bothered.

[Kolaina]

For someone who might not be a native English speaker, or someone otherwise unfamiliar to the English language, "validate" may not be a very familiar English word. Especially if they're only used to using English for talking to people for normal conversation, I don't think it would be very natural to use any variation of the word "valid" constantly in conversation, unless you're trying to be captain of the debate team, president of the science club, vice president of the fashion club, or are only talking to customer service representatives.

If we want to go down that route I’d say they’re more versed than they are letting on. When you consider structure, punctuation, etc. regardless, a dictionary or a Google search would solve it. Valid can come up more than you realize. “Valid point” as an example.”validated parking” as another. Or seeking validation via likes on a forum post.

[Amenara]

After collecting tomes and upgrading a weapon I realized a new reason to not like the step, I can't work on anymore relics since I need tome items for crafting and the relic has caused the tome items price on the MB to inflate heavily.

[sharknado]

and the relic has caused the tome items price on the MB to inflate heavily.

More like crafters resetting the market before patch and now profiting on what they bought during reset and what they crafted. And not like tomes are hard to come by plus right now is the last call for the crafted combat gear as 6.4 will reset it.