I hate the argument that this relic is for the casuals? Like? You have to play the game to get the tomes. You can't AFK in Limsa and suddenly have all 19 weapons.

And just because I am perfectly okay doing roulettes for my relics doesn't mean I do the bare minimum. I try in all content I do. I don't just sit there pressing 1 button the whole run. I know the classes I play. I know my rotations. I aim to gear up my classes in the best gear I am able to get. I research duties before I get there. I don't play casually.

But yet, apparently doing roulettes for a relic makes you a casual, but fate farming for a relic makes you mid?

Nah.

The opposite of casual would be hardcore. So why do people with savage weapons care about the relic?