Quote Originally Posted by elioaiko View Post
At least with Exploration Zones, it felt new with some progress steps visually. Say what you want about Eureka but the zones had a sense of unknown and danger to them that made them interesting.

And I'd rather do a NM train and grind for lost actions. That to me is fun.

No matter who you cut it, there's always going to be a "grind" for relic because that's how it's designed to be. A long process to get the final expansion weapon. And tbh, relics have never been hard, just grindy.

The way they have them now is so boring. I have no attachment to the weapon because I just drop the tomes to buy it from my daily routines. Mandeville is cool and all but attaching it to a relic weapon is a choice.

Eureka and Bozja at least has some creavitity put into it.

ARR was the true grind hell tho.

HW was okay.
An an example Bozja gave us Red Choctober which was a big talk during the release along with some heavy punishing fights, it was something impressive with horde of players making comments, dying left and right and so on. Yeah people would say it is just an instance where you spam FATEs but at least it had stuff going on.