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    Asphhar's Avatar
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    Zzuja Bakkoda
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    Only play a few hours a day myself, I certainly would have preferred a long term grind of some sorts. To say everyone with less time on their hands don't like to grind is quite disingenuous. 1500 tomes is nothing, and the thing that stings the most is, it's EXACTLY the same step as the previous one. They didn't even try to be creative with it, it's lazy, plain and simple. And there's people defending this. It's just sad man.
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    Alice Cellenia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asphhar View Post
    Only play a few hours a day myself, I certainly would have preferred a long term grind of some sorts. To say everyone with less time on their hands don't like to grind is quite disingenuous. 1500 tomes is nothing, and the thing that stings the most is, it's EXACTLY the same step as the previous one. They didn't even try to be creative with it, it's lazy, plain and simple. And there's people defending this. It's just sad man.
    For real! I got Eureka done while in school full time and working a job and it was still the best and most fun relic for me. People will literally complain and demean others because they *checks notes* don't want to play the game they pay for?
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    Rask Crowe
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Asphhar View Post
    Only play a few hours a day myself, I certainly would have preferred a long term grind of some sorts. To say everyone with less time on their hands don't like to grind is quite disingenuous. 1500 tomes is nothing, and the thing that stings the most is, it's EXACTLY the same step as the previous one. They didn't even try to be creative with it, it's lazy, plain and simple. And there's people defending this. It's just sad man.
    I agree with this take. I don't think having a long grind is inherently bad for people with little time, because you can spread it over small bits over an extended period of time. I think that's how the ARR and HW relics were originally designed as.

    As taxing as the Heavensward relic was when it first came out (pre-nerf), I never really felt burnt out because I just got it by doing Beast Tribe dailies every day. Sure, you could slave yourself away and obsessively grind tomes for it - and a lot of people did - but you would burn yourself out and run out of things to do really fast.

    Same with the light grinding in ARR. I did that by just running Frontlines back in the day, a couple of times a day. Never really engaged in dungeon and Crystal Tower spamming like some people did.

    When they mentioned the Endwalker relic was going to be similar to ARR and HW, I guess that's what I had in mind. It gave me a better reason to do my roulettes every day. I don't think having that kind of long winded grind is a bad thing, if you just keep doing the same thing you're doing.
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asphhar View Post
    Only play a few hours a day myself, I certainly would have preferred a long term grind of some sorts. To say everyone with less time on their hands don't like to grind is quite disingenuous. 1500 tomes is nothing, and the thing that stings the most is, it's EXACTLY the same step as the previous one. They didn't even try to be creative with it, it's lazy, plain and simple. And there's people defending this. It's just sad man.
    Sadly to some people having to log in the game to do a tiny bit of equals to having to log in all day long
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    Tim Brady
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asphhar View Post
    Only play a few hours a day myself, I certainly would have preferred a long term grind of some sorts. To say everyone with less time on their hands don't like to grind is quite disingenuous. 1500 tomes is nothing, and the thing that stings the most is, it's EXACTLY the same step as the previous one. They didn't even try to be creative with it, it's lazy, plain and simple. And there's people defending this. It's just sad man.
    Some people defend this relic step by saying "You should value your time", but my counter to that claim is rather "You should value your money"
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
    Some people defend this relic step by saying "You should value your time", but my counter to that claim is rather "You should value your money"
    *buys newest mogstation outfit for main and alts*
    Value what now?
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    Ahmya Redsol
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    I finished all Eureka Zones in 2 weeks soloing and grouping with random parties and it was a blast. We got relics AND shiny armor for the grind and this was years after the content was "relevant." ATM now you just pay for it from dailies. lol
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